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prantor -> InCD Win2000 problem, no eject, no data (12/8/2002 8:43:23 AM)

Hi,
I am a newbie to CD burning.

I am able to format a CD-RW using InCD, once formating is done, I am able to write files to that drive, but the InCD icon in the taskbar always points to S-E(red) and also when I right-click the icon I do not see an eject option, so I cannot eject the drive. Since I cannot eject the drive I have to shutdown my machine, and at that time the external CD-RW drive starts make more spinning noise. Even after my machine shutdown the external CD-RW drive keeps on making the spinning noise so I switch off the burner. Next time I bootup InCD does not see that data I wrote to it previously.

OS:Win 2000
CD Burner: yamaha CRW-F1ZUX
CD-RW media: yamaha supplied.

Note: I have no problem burning CD-RWs with Nero Burning Rom Software, the external CD-RW drive does not make much disk spinning noise.

Prantor




KCK -> RE: InCD Win2000 problem, no eject, no data (12/8/2002 7:36:22 PM)

Apparently either InCD isn't installed correctly, or there are conflicts with previously installed burning software. If necessary, download from www.ahead.de and install the latest versions of Nero 5.5.9.17 and InCD 3.51.61 (but first uninstall your InCD via Control Panel| Add/Remove Programs).

In the future, report as many details as possible. For instance, did you try formatting with the CD-MRW (Mt. Rainier) option? What is the rated speed of your media (4x, 4x-10x, etc)? Did you test only the CD-RW disc(s) supplied with your burner?

For hints on troubleshooting InCD under W2K, see the thread

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=7494

This thread is still growing, so check it periodically!

You should also consider which of the following general steps are applicable in your case.

Steps for Troubleshooting InCD Problems under Windows 2000

1. Upgrade the firmware of your burner to the latest version from your vendor's or original manufacturer's website.

2. Check your vendor's website for recommended CD-RW media. Search the Web (Google) for reviews of your burner and users' experiences with different media at www.cdfreaks.com, www.cdrinfo.com and www.cdrlabs.com. You may expect problems: 24x re-writers are fairly new and probably not tested much on older media, whereas 24x and even 16x media are hardly available.

3. Get at least a couple of 4x-10x or 4x-12x CDRW discs from several better known vendors (see (2) above). Unfortunately InCD no longer allows you to control rewriting speeds. You can check which speeds are listed for your media in Nero itself (for a blank CD-RW), and in Nero InfoTool. BTW, Nero 5.5.9.17 installs the latest versions of CD Speed and InfoTool, which are highly useful for troubleshooting InCD; otherwise, you may need to download them separately.

4. If you wish to reuse a disc, don't try to save time by using any quick formatting or quick erase options; always do Full Erase in Nero| Recorder| EraseReWritable.

5. Before upgrading to the latest version of InCD from www.ahead.de, remove the previous version via Control Panel| Add/Remove Programs and reboot.

6. Download the InCD manual from Ahead; although outdated, it gives general ideas about InCD. The help in InCD 3.51.61 doesn't work at all, and C:\Program Files\ahead\InCD\InCD.hlp is difficult to use and outdated.

7. Before formatting with InCD, make sure there are no "heavy" programs running in the background. Also before writing to InCD formatted discs, it may be wise to disable virus scanners, etc.

8. Sometimes InCD works only with Autorun off (as reported by Nero InfoTool). To get Autorun off, either use Notepad to create a file called autorun0.reg that contains the following four lines

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdrom]
"AutoRun"=dword:00000000

and run it by double clicking on autorun0.reg in Explorer, or edit the registry. (If you replace the final 0 by 1, you'll get Autorun on.)

9. Expect trouble if, before installing InCD, you ran other packet writers (e.g., Roxio's DirectCD), UDF readers (again Roxio's UDFReader) or burning plugins installed "silently" by other applications (e.g., Windows Media Player, WinAmp, RealPlayer, etc). Such applications typically install drivers conficting with InCD, which are not removed even if you remove the application itself. Since I've never installed such software, I can't identify all possible culprits, but you should look for files named as Cd*.sys, Cd*.dll, Ud*.sys, Ud*.dll. Here are listings from a user running W2K SP3:

dir C:\Winnt\System32\Drivers\cd*.*
07/26/2000 19,080 cdaudio.sys
07/22/2002 61,104 cdfs.sys
07/22/2002 27,952 cdrom.sys

dir C:\Winnt\System32\Drivers\ud*.*
7/22/2002 - 62,672 udfs.sys

dir C:\Winnt\System32\cd*.*
08/29/2002 142,336 cdfview.dll
09/18/2001 118,872 cdm.dll
10/03/1998 703,760 cdo.dll
07/22/2002 402,704 cdont.dll
07/22/2002 2,524,944 cdosys.dll
07/26/2000 337,680 cdplayer.exe

dir C:\WinNT\System32\ud*.*
No Files

For comparable listings, run these dir commands in a cmd window (Start| Run| cmd). If you see other SYS or DLL files on your box, try renaming their .SYS extensions to .SY_ and .DLL to .DL_, and reboot; you may also need to remove the registry settings for these files. For example, you may see UdfReadr.sys (if you used DirectCD or tried reading a DirectCD disc on your box), or Cdr4_2k.sys, Cdralw2k.sys, Cdral.dll and Cdrtc.dll installed by the Adaptec/Roxio burning plugin of Windows Media Player (WMP) 7.0, 7.1 or 9.0. If you can't remove UDF Reader or this WMP's component via Add/Remove Programs, rename these files; to clean the registry, either use Notepad to create a file called cdclean.reg that contains the following seven lines

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdr4_2K]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdralw2k]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\UdfReadr]

and run it by double clicking on cdclean.reg in Explorer, or edit the registry.

10. Check what Nero InfoTool says about your ASPI layers; see, e.g.,

http://aspi.radified.com

for basic information about ASPI. Apparently Nero and InCD don't need special ASPI, but you may be in trouble if other burning programs required installation of special ASPI layers. Many users reported problems with the latest Adaptec's ASPI (4.7?), and frequently they had to use ForceASPI to revert to version 4.6.




Sean Nerf -> RE: InCD Win2000 problem, no eject, no data (2/26/2003 10:35:31 AM)

ok, after reding this thread i tried editing the rgistry as sugested:

REGEDIT4

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdr4_2K]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Cdralw2k]

[-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\UdfReadr]


now i am completely screwed becaus windows refuses to recognise any cd device at all!!!

is there any way i can undo these changes???





KCK -> RE: InCD Win2000 problem, no eject, no data (2/26/2003 12:03:15 PM)

Sean Nerf:

Unfortunately you can't retrieve the removed keys unless you backed up (exported) that portion of the registry before making any changes.

Apparently you are suffering from the UpperFilters/LowerFilters problem; see the MS Knowledge Board links in section S11 of the updated W2K guide

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=64787

and similar MS Knowledge Board links in section S11 of the XP guide

http://www.cdrlabs.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=54876#54876

To clean up UpperFilters and LowerFilters, either use Notepad to create a file called ulfilter.reg that contains the following five lines (note the possible wrap in line 3)

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E965-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}]
"UpperFilters"=-
"LowerFilters"=-

and run it by double clicking on ulfilter.reg in Explorer, or edit the registry to remove these UpperFilters and LowerFilters keys. But check these MS links first, since they may tell you how to backup registry portions so that you can undo changes if necessary.

Note that after the UpperFilters and/or LowerFilters values are removed, in general you may need to reinstall your burning software.

Please report your results.




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