After a little testing, I'm confident that two-sheep burner ratings will be a thing of the past. Just got a working backup of Unleashed (SD2.80.010) using a Ricoh MP7163A on a new beta. Some nice new features ;)

A Lite-On 24102B read and written backup worked everywhere except the 24102B and a Lite-On 163D. An ASUS CRW-4816A written/24102B read did not work anywhere. A Lite-On 24102B written ASUS read worked everywhere except the 24102B (!!!) - I hate my 24102B

Burners: ASUS CRW-1610A, 4012A, 4816A, 5224A, Lite-On LTR-24102B, 32123S, 40125S, LTD-163D, Acer CRW-1610A, Ricoh MP7163A
CD-ROMs: Mitsu DD 52x, ASUS 48x
DVD-ROMS: Toshiba SD-M1402, Hitach GD-7500
DVD-ROM/Writer Combo: Toshiba SD-R1202

btw, the CloneCD Virtual Drive is like no other VD. If you use bushound have a look

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I have tested the Ricoh backup in all my units and some others - works everywhere with "Hide..." on. You can also use the CloneCD Virtual Drive, too

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Originally posted by FutureProof

two-sheep burner ratings will be a thing of the past

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Always thought that Ollie and his team @ [url="www.elby.ch"]Elby[/url] would accomplish this, after he said that he would be working on his new copy engine etc.

Anyways the beta's nice, but has a few bugs etc (as you mention) but will decimate *all* when released as a final.

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Btw ASUS 52X that makes SD2 2.60.050 cannot do SD2 2.80.010 with Padus DJ...Another drive that cannot do latest SD2?

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Originally posted by john

Btw ASUS 52X that makes SD2 2.60.050 cannot do SD2 2.80.010 with Padus DJ...Another drive that cannot do latest SD2?

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I'll give it a go

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The strange is that using the same DJ image, with the same settings, with SONY and AOPEN 52X drives created 100% ok SD2 2.80.010 backups, while the ASUS 52X doesn't...Weird...[B)]

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Originally posted by john

Btw ASUS 52X that makes SD2 2.60.050 cannot do SD2 2.80.010 with Padus DJ...Another drive that cannot do latest SD2?

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I'll give it a go

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Burnt my DJ image of Unleashed (SD2 2.80.010)and it works in all devices with "Hide..." as required.

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what could you have done wrong?

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Did you tested this in CD-RW or CD-ROM drives?

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Originally posted by john

Did you tested this in CD-RW or CD-ROM drives?

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All three CD-ROM, DVD-ROM and CD-RW; I tested it it in all my gear:

ASUS CRW-1610A, 4012A, 4816A, 5224A
Lite-On 24102B, 32123S, 40125S
Ricoh MP7163A
Acer CRW-1610A
Mitsu DD 52x ASUS 48x
Hitachi GD-7500, Toshi 1402, Toshi 1202, LTD-163D

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(in reply to FutureProof)

Hmm...That is so strange. I am getting "Insert correct CD-ROM" error message.

With which drive you made the DJ image?

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Originally posted by john

Hmm...That is so strange. I am getting "Insert correct CD-ROM" error message.

With which drive you made the DJ image?

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Ahhh....I see, the image was made with my CRW-4816A; I'll make an image with the 5224A ;) and see what happens. Have you tried any Liteys with DJ on SD2.8x?

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Originally posted by john

Hmm...That is so strange. I am getting "Insert correct CD-ROM" error message.

With which drive you made the DJ image?

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I just did a read & write with the 5224A - works in the burner and my LTD-163D. Will try other units tomorrow (v.tired now)

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[/quote]Ahhh....I see, the image was made with my CRW-4816A; I'll make an image with the 5224A ;) and see what happens. Have you tried any Liteys with DJ on SD2.8x?
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I think the image was created with a Plextor 48X recorder...

The image worked perfect with AOpen 52X and SONY 52X (LiteOn clone) so i guess its ok...

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Originally posted by john


I think the image was created with a Plextor 48X recorder...

The image worked perfect with AOpen 52X and SONY 52X (LiteOn clone) so i guess its ok...

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So....what does this mean again?

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Originally posted by john
Btw ASUS 52X that makes SD2 2.60.050 cannot do SD2 2.80.010 with Padus DJ...Another drive that cannot do latest SD2?

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(in reply to FutureProof)

I ment so say that with the specific media, two SD2 2.80.010 killers worked ok, but not the ASUS 52x...We will try again making a new image with the ASUS 52x drive

(in reply to FutureProof)

Media was Verbatim super-AZO 40x for CRW-4816A and 32x Mitsu Chem for 5224A

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