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CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/14/2002 11:30:10 AM   
Harlin

 

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Why can I copy Audio CD using old bit-to-bit byte-to-byte copy mechanism, instead of using DAE which is IMO is very long time (esp if I want best result/quality) and it can't use (IMO) Secure Extraction.

I hope there's a way to copy AudioCD using old conventional methods.
Thanks.

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/21/2002 12:41:29 AM   
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Can somebody answer me?
I need to backup some old CD, should I use old CloneCD (ver 3) instead?


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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/21/2002 8:29:58 AM   
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While you can use CloneCD, I would suggest utilizing Nero, it's geared for audio cd's. I've had mixed results using CloneCD for audio cd's.

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/21/2002 10:29:23 AM   
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i would recommend either feurio! or eac (exactaudiocopy) for copying audio cds. they are made specifically for audio and that's all they do. feurio is shareware and eac is free.

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/22/2002 12:57:14 AM   
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I've tried EAC, but CMIIW it's use DAE to extract and then burn it just like CloneCD 4.

Is DAE degrading the audio cd quality?
IMO, sectors/tracks reading and copying is still the best for any kind of copying. How's your opinion?

Thanks.


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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/22/2002 7:13:11 AM   
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I have also had some good results with Nero.

Visit www.cdrtimes.net too. Another great place....

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/22/2002 8:21:22 AM   
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DAE is the best way, and produces the best quality when ripped to .wav format.

There is no better method to exract audio from a CD digitally than DAE...

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/22/2002 5:12:31 PM   
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I'm not sure who informed you that IMO/Sector/Track copying produced the best results, because it's false. DAE is the best method for audio, it's DIGITAL AUDIO EXTRACTION. I recommended Nero because it is faster than EAC and I have had no problems with results from Nero. I personally don't use either, I use MusicMatch to rip my cd's, it's mp3 encoder is licensed from the inventer of MP3, so as Laffin would say "You get what you pay for". MusicMatch also rips to wave format if that's what you desire, MP3Pro, MP3VBR, and any bitrate MP3 as well as Windows Media.

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/23/2002 5:58:50 AM   
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quote:

DAE is the best way, and produces the best quality when ripped to .wav format.

There is no better method to exract audio from a CD digitally than DAE...

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But I don't want to rip, I just want to backup/duplicate/clone (whatever you call it) an audio CD. I agree that DAE is the best for ripping an audio CD to wav or MP3, but what about just copying an audio CD that I expected to be exact like the original ?


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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/23/2002 5:59:05 AM   
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quote:

DAE is the best way, and produces the best quality when ripped to .wav format.

There is no better method to exract audio from a CD digitally than DAE...

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But I don't want to rip, I just want to backup/duplicate/clone (whatever you call it) an audio CD. I agree that DAE is the best for ripping an audio CD to wav or MP3, but what about just copying an audio CD that I expected to be exact like the original ?


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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/23/2002 8:47:03 AM   
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Hey Harlin
So just do what MP3Mogul says and use Nero and see what copied Audio CD is like. I use Nero and have no problems unless of course it has CD Protection on it and then I would use Clone CD!!!
I hope this Helps !!!

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/23/2002 11:24:15 AM   
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harlin, don't be confused. nero, ezcd, and all the rest use dae when copying an audio cd. when we refer to 'ripping' we don't necessarily mean copying it to the hard drive in order to change formats. the tracks on your audio cds are in .wav format already. if you choose 'copy cd' in either of these programs as well as in feurio or eac then it will read it using dae and then write it to cd.

the latest versions of clone are supposed to copy audio using dae also but version 3 and prior simply use sector copying, not the best for audio.
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Edited by - netman on 07/23/2002 11:25:32

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RE: CloneCD 4 + Audio CD - 7/23/2002 11:28:05 AM   
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You guys are right on! And like I said NERO for everything, and CloneCD for anything protected.... LOL.....

Visit www.cdrtimes.net too. Another great place....

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