If a CD doesn't have any scratches or anything like that, will it be a perfect copy if I use CloneCD, or should I be using a specific music extraction program like EAC? I've so far only been using EAC if the source CD is scratched in some way, as it's much easier to copy things with CloneCD (i.e. source disc goes in, source disc comes out, blank cdr goes in, copy done). However, since I want my backed-up albums to sound exactly like the originals, I need to know if CloneCD is capable of making exact copies.

Thanks for your help.

clone doesn't do digital audio extraction, it does sector copying. eac is great and feurio is made for audio and also has a very easy and good disk copy module.

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netman
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Thanks for the reply netman. So, are you saying that CloneCD is no good for copying audio cds? Does it not do it properly then? And what's this "feurio"? Does it work like CloneCD, except that it's specifically made for Audio cds? Should I still be using EAC for slightly/heavily scratched media? Perhaps you could describe to me in idiot-speak what to do, as I'd like to make sure I get things absolutely right.

Btw, I have one of the new 24X Plex's, if that's any help.

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i used to use clone for copying audio but i asked audio experts in a forum much like this about it. i figured it's all ones and zeroes so how can it be different. audio cds use a different format apparently and require digital audio extraction (dae) instead of sector copying. many of my clone copies sounded fine to me but many times i would notice pops and clicks and such.

feurio is shareware audio mastering software that you can find at www.feurio.com. it's not time limited or crippled in any way. only a single nag screen when you start where you choose 'continue testing' until you decide to register. much like nero or ezcd it has capabilities of burning mp3s to audio, ripping audio tracks to hd, mastering mix cds, and cd to cd copying of audio cds. it gives you many options so you have total control of your audio cds, lots more options than what i know how to use. if you can use eac then you will have no problem. eac has too steep a learning curve for an old codger like me.

btw, the audiophiles i know still think eac is god's gift to audio (and i'm sure they're right) but when they have a badly scratched or damaged cd they turn to feurio. it's supposed to be the last word in recovering such cds. they say if it can be recovered then feurio will do it. download it and try it out. can't hurt.

btw2, nero, ezcd, and discjuggler also will detect an audio cd when doing a disk copy and use dae for audio cds. i don't know much about nero's capabilities but ezcd cremator 5 has lot's of audio tools also.

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netman
netman@cdrtimes.net

(in reply to The_Bursk)

In my experience, CloneCD copies audio cd's just as good as any other (to my untrained ears). Though you may want to use Feurio just to be safe. I would copy audio cd's that have cd extra programs with clone cd no question

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Plextor doesn't support CloneCD at all. Using CloneCD could distroy your plexWriter.

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Thanks for the reply netman. So, are you saying that CloneCD is no good for copying audio cds? Does it not do it properly then? And what's this "feurio"? Does it work like CloneCD, except that it's specifically made for Audio cds? Should I still be using EAC for slightly/heavily scratched media? Perhaps you could describe to me in idiot-speak what to do, as I'd like to make sure I get things absolutely right.

Btw, I have one of the new 24X Plex's, if that's any help.

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Clarence A Lawson Sr

excuse me? did you say that plextors don't support clonecd and that using clone could destroy your plex?

where on earth did you get this information?

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netman
netman@cdrtimes.net

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i've just made about 10 cd with my plex 16-10-40 this afternoon and it is stil alive !!!!!!!

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using clonecd

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used my plexy and clone for about a 1 year now

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hi,
ive used clone 4 audio cds on my plexy - no probs.
now i use DAE from www.cdspeed2000 . an excellent extractor that tells u how many errors are ripped so u can try again slower.it works perfect with a quality writer like my plexy. try it on a badly scratched cd its impressive ! its even supprising what new cds aren't printed right and have errors - ripped 1 track yesterday and the plexy should have been at 16 - 18x speed but it had 2 slow down to 1.8x -- very badly printed disc (unmarked brand new !!)
then i burn them with feurio adding any cd text.
this is the best faultless method i've come across - but i'm interested 2 hear of any better :-)

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I always use CloneCD for making full backups of my Audio CD's.

Is there anything better?
I have heard EAC was the best, is this true.
EAC does'nt use your soundcard to copy.

Only EAC and CloneCD copy direct.

John

Burn Baby Burn!!
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Writer: Liteon 24x
Burning on the Fly!

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