I have a Pioneer HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B version 1.02 and cant seem to find the firmware to update it and would love some help. I also found the firmware for my Pioneer DVD-Rom DVD-117R and I cant upgrade it cause the file is made for installing in Win 95/98 and talks about going into MS-Dos so not sure how to go about actually installing it either so if anyone knows about that I would love some help here as well. My Purpose ofr wanting to do this is I am finally starting to burn after having this puter for a couple years and I am getting illegal disc errors with Nero 7 Ultra when i try to burn VCD's, strangely I can burn audio files with it just fine but cant seem to get VCD's to work. Even stranger is the first thing I ever tried to burn was a VCD and it worked great, none have worked since then. So I have read many posts about this issue on many different sites and firmware seems to be the main issue. So before I toss my puter out the window someone please help me hehe. If any other info is needed please post here what I need to do and I will gladly do my part to help figure all this out, thanks in advance for the help! Homedepotfan decided to add this to my post, its the Nero log file,  hope it helps sorry for the spam if not.... Windows XP 5.1 IA32 WinAspi: - ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\Nero\Nero 7\Core\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 11/2/2004 1:54:32 PM NT-SPTI used Nero Version: 7.0.8.2 Internal Version: 7, 0, 8, 2 Recorder: <HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B>Version: 1.02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.8.2 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 Drive buffer : 2048kB Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ? CD-ROM: <HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B >Version: 1.02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 7.0.8.2 Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1 === Scsi-Device-Map === DiskPeripheral : ST380020A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: Off CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B atapi Port 1 ID 1 DMA: Off === CDRom-Device-Map === PIONEER DVD-ROM DVD-117R F: CDRom0 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B G: CDRom1 ======================= AutoRun : 1 Excluded drive IDs: WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte BUFE : 0 Physical memory : 1023MB (1048096kB) Free physical memory: 580MB (594664kB) Memory in use : 43 % Uncached PFiles: 0x0 Use Inquiry : 1 Global Bus Type: default (0) Check supported media : Disabled (0) 10.4.2006 Video CD 1:24:58 AM #1 Text 0 File VCDDoc.cpp, Line 1403 VideoCD document burn settings ------------------------------------------ Compilation type : VCD Menu : Disable Picture in separate folder : FALSE Use CD-I : TRUE CD-I configuration : CONTROLS=ALL CURCOL=YELLOW PSDCURCOL=RED PSDCURSHAPE=ARROW CENTRTRACK=2 AUTOPLAY=AUTO_ON DUALCHAN=DUAL_ON TIMECODE_X=64 TIMECODE_Y=100 LOTID_X=64 LOTID_Y=64 ALBUM=STANDARD Encoding bitrate mode : User defined (kb/s) 1:24:58 AM #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6423 Iso document burn settings ------------------------------------------ Determine maximum speed : FALSE Simulate : FALSE Write : TRUE Finalize CD : TRUE Multisession : FALSE Burning mode : DAO Mode : 2 / XA ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char) Character set : ISO 9660 Joliet : FALSE Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE 1:24:58 AM #3 Text 0 File VCDDoc.cpp, Line 2885 VCD options: ----------------------------------------------------- Create standard compliant CD: YES Encoding resolution: NTSC ----------------------------------------------------- 1:24:58 AM #4 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3056 HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B Buffer underrun protection activated 1:24:58 AM #5 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 531 ReadBuffer-Pipe got 81920KB of Memory 1:24:58 AM #6 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 124 Reader running 1:24:58 AM #7 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 113 Writer G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B running 1:24:58 AM #8 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 1:24:58 AM #9 ISO9660GEN -11 File Geniso.cpp, Line 3312 First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000) 1:24:58 AM #10 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3353 Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media 1:24:58 AM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 289 Last possible write address on media: 359846 ( 79:59.71) Last address to be written: 291229 ( 64:45.04) 1:24:58 AM #12 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 301 Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD) 1:24:58 AM #13 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2715 Recorder: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B; CDR code: 00 97 24 01; OSJ entry from: Taiyo Yuden Company Limited ATIP Data: Special Info [hex] 1: C0 00 98, 2: 61 18 01 (LI 97:24.01), 3: 4F 3B 48 (LO 79:59.72) Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 80 (invalid), 2: 00 80 00 (invalid), 3: 00 80 80 (invalid) 1:24:58 AM #14 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 473 >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<< ========================================= 1:24:58 AM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 847 Setup items (after recorder preparation) 0: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 () 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 1110 (1110) = #1110/0:14.60 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 1110 blocks [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B] 1: TRM_DATA_MODE2_2336 ([TMD]Walk.The.Line.(ALLiANCE).DVDRip.(2of2)) 2 indices, index0 (150) not provided original disc pos #0 + 289970 (289970) = #289970/64:26.20 relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/not required, no patch infos -> TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 289970 blocks [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B] -------------------------------------------------------------- 1:24:58 AM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1059 Prepare recorder [G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO DAO infos: ========== MCN: "" TOCType: 0x20; Session Closed, disc fixated Tracks 1 to 2: 1: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x00, FilePos 0 352800 2963520, ISRC "" 2: TRM_DATA_RAW_MODE2, 2352/0x00, FilePos 2963520 3316320 685325760, ISRC "" DAO layout: =========== __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________ -150 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 -150 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 1110 | 2 | 0 | 0x41 | 0x00 1260 | 2 | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 291230 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0x00 1:24:58 AM #17 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 39 SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FCTL_LOCK_VOLUME 1:24:58 AM #18 Text 0 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 84 SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME 1:24:58 AM #19 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730 Caching of files started 1:24:59 AM #20 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4187 Cache writing successful. 1:24:59 AM #21 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730 Caching of files completed 1:24:59 AM #22 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730 Burn process started at 16x (2,400 KB/s) 1:24:59 AM #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707 Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0 1:24:59 AM #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2707 Verifying disc position of item 1 (relocatable, no disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #1260 1:24:59 AM #25 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17216 StartDAO : CD-Text - Off 1:24:59 AM #26 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 21893 Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON 1:24:59 AM #27 Text 0 File MMC.cpp, Line 17447 CueData, Len=48 41 00 00 34 00 00 00 00 41 01 00 21 00 00 00 00 41 01 01 21 00 00 02 00 41 02 00 21 00 00 10 3c 41 02 01 21 00 00 12 3c 41 aa 01 34 00 40 2d 05 1:25:18 AM #28 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1211 01:25:18.609 - G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B : Queue again later 1:25:23 AM #29 SPTI -1046 File SCSIPassThrough.cpp, Line 290 G: CdRom1: SCSIStatus(x02) WinError(0) NeroError(-1046) Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST) Sense Code: 0x30 Sense Qual: 0x06 CDB Data: 0x2A 00 00 00 02 D9 00 00 1B 00 00 00 Sense Area: 0x70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 06 Buffer x05860000: Len xf810 0x00 FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF FF 00 00 11 54 02 0x01 00 62 05 01 00 62 05 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0x00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1:25:23 AM #30 CDR -1046 File Writer.cpp, Line 302 Illegal disc G: HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8160B 1:25:23 AM #31 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228 all writers idle, stopping conversion 1:25:23 AM #32 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222 conversion idle, stopping reader 1:25:24 AM #33 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1730 Burn process failed at 16x (2,400 KB/s) Existing drivers: File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.27a, size=20576 bytes, created 1/26/2005 3:03:00 AM (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K) Registry Keys: HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)