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vbguru_12000 -> RE: Another Bump (10/4/2004 8:50:50 PM)
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1) Why would you need to go to Control Panel when Alcohol provides you with a nice "uninstall" program that comes with the software ? Maybe it's because it doesn't "Uninstall", but rather hides something or installs something else.
The control panel add/remove simply checks a certain part of the registry for all programs that have listed themselves as installed. This section of the registry also contains a shortcut/link to the uninstaller program provided by the company. So, basically, uninstalling by the add/remove feature and by running the uninstall program is the exact same thing.
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2) I went to control panel and "Alcohol" was not listed, even though it had Keys in the Registry. Why would they hide the existance of their software from Microsoft's Add/Remove Programs, and their users ?
Alcohol is listed in my add/remove, likely it isn't in yours because you've already uninstalled it. The uninstaller that comes with Alcohol removes the above mentioned registry setting so that it won't continually be listed.
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1) First I think it is unreasonable to expect ANY user to start fooling with the Registry to Uninstall their code. Where is Alcohol going to be when some monkey (maybe you) deletes the wrong Key and looses and entire Hard Drive worth of data ? Not compensating you for the value of your lost data, for certain. They'll by hiding behind their disclaimer, which (BTW) doesn't mention ANYTHING about having the right to place code on your computer and then refuse to allow you to remove it.
No one is expecting a user to fool with the registry. First off, the registry doesn't contain any code whatsoever. It simply contains stuff such as file extension information, installed programs information (as previously mentioned), startup information, ect.
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2) If I can delete their code from the Registry, then they could have included those commands in their "Uninstall" program. They didn't, and they didn't do this for a reason. I would like to know what that reason is. None of you people (seem to) know (yet). But (some of) you seem to resent the fact that I want to know.
I personally don't resent the fact you want to know everything that goes on in your computer. But I don't quite understand the point in removing a few remnant registry entries. Frankly, thousands of programs don't, or can't, remove all of their code/registry entries. As long as it isn't malicious, I don't worry about it too much. That's what reformats are for.
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And another thing. Unless you know code like only programmers know code, then you don't really KNOW whether or not Alcohol is adware or not. Or a trojan, logger or a tracker. I'd like to believe your opinion about what Alcohol "isn't", but until someone can show me completely what it "IS" then my opinion about it's possible other uses are as valid as anyone else's
Actually, it's quite simple to see if a program is "calling home." A decent firewall program will show a popup notification whenever a program is connecting to the internet. Alcohol doesn't do this. Therefore, cannot be spyware. Also, since Alcohol is such a popular/widely used program, those that are super-geniuses with this kinda thing would be raising hell about it containing spy/adware.
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