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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/15/2004 12:10:30 AM   
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Like Emperor said, "Minos will post shortly some first tests"! I'm waiting with my tongue hanging out.


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/15/2004 12:06:19 PM   
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already some first tests are up at a small preview, more tests at the final review, wait a while, it will be huge

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/15/2004 11:49:09 PM   
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I don't understand why Manufactures put out drives that can't achieve the "Specs" that are indicated for them..... Seems like "False" advertising. If a Manufacturer says, their drive can burn a DVD + RW (Recommended Media) disc at 8x then the drive should be able to do this out-of-the box! But we all know this is not the case.

Why should a Manufacturer get paid top dollar for a product that won't perform like it says out-of-box? And the end-user have to WAIT months later to get a "Firmware" update that may or may not work properly. The end-user is getting cheated to say the very least, because they're paying for something that they are not getting.

I wonder what would happen if users would STOP buying such products from those drive manufactures that do this?


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 11:05:39 AM   
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First of all, there aren't at the moment 8X +RW media, so its natural that plextor and other manufactures wait until 8X +RW media hits the market...

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 11:44:07 AM   
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Yeah, but Emperor you know that's not the only situation that happens. Also, in order for them to say the drive can write at certain speeds it means that THEY have the media to test with, right? Furthermore, I've known some drives that can use a slower speed media and obtain a higher speed burn!

I believe no manufacture should wait until certain speed media hit the market before they put out firmware to write at that speed, like I said before everything should be in there when purchased, just like the "Rygue" it's ALL In There!


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 11:47:10 AM   
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There is no overspeeding of RW media, period. And it's possible they have tested the drive with preproduction samples of 8x +RW. 6x DVD-RW is already out in Japan.

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 12:00:58 PM   
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I wasn't talking about RW media, in fact I didn't even mention it--- did you READ my last post! And it doesn't matter whether it's Reproduction Samples or not it's still used and if they can use it so can others if it's made available.

Also, obviously it doesn't matter to you whether you get what you pay for, I do!


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 12:12:09 PM   
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What are you complaining about this drive not being able to do "out of the box" if not 8x DVD+RW burning? The PX-716A can already overspeed some 8x DVD+R and -R media to 12x and 16x, and DVD+R DL 2.4x media to 4x. The drive is doing what it clams in terms of speed, the problem is the write quality is poor, which may or may not be correctable via firmware.

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 12:20:32 PM   
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Your problem is that YOU DON'T READ! I'm not just talking about Plextor I'm talking about ALL manufacturers of these Optical drives. And if you've been purchasing and using any of them then you should be aware of what I'm saying! Most of these Optical drives DO NOT perform out of the box as they should, therefore, "Firmware"!

"The drive is doing what it clams in terms of speed, the problem is the write quality is poor, which may or may not be correctable via firmware." Thanks for PROVING my point!

Also, I'm not complaining I'm just stating a FACT!




Tip: I've owned nothing but Plextor drives, (And I might add they have given me "Great" customer service too!) so I don't have anything personally against Plextor!


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/16/2004 9:09:38 PM   
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I came ...
I read ....
I purchased ...

quote:

already some first tests are up at a small preview, more tests at the final review, wait a while, it will be huge


I hope ... that "huge" is a good thing!

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/18/2004 2:36:23 AM   
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A new 1.03 firmware for the Plextor PX-716A has been realeased in Europe on Friday december the 16th
see the news at the french (top) website "Gravure News"

http://www.gravure-news.com/html/news/VisuNews2.php#874


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/18/2004 11:55:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: franz99

A new 1.03 firmware for the Plextor PX-716A has been realeased in Europe on Friday december the 16th
see the news at the french (top) website "Gravure News"

http://www.gravure-news.com/html/news/VisuNews2.php#874


Can someone translate that for me?

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/18/2004 12:14:21 PM   
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The text you quoted is already in english so do you mean translating the whole news word fo word ? I you ask I will do it soon, but you are probably only interested in the download link ...
Remember for the next time: in french "ici" means "here" so that is where the download link is.

The US site of Plextor has only (today saturday the 18 th at 17:30 GMT) the version 1.02 on line, see here:
http://www.plextor.com/english/support/downloads/firm_716.htm
maybe they will put it on line today ...( or monday morning)

If you want to know the whole story: PX-716A with TLA#0203 are already sold in Japan and the new firmware 1.03 was first put on line at the chinese website Friday december the 16th at 16:27:01 (local time there I suppose: this date is written on their website)


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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/20/2004 1:59:36 PM   
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We will have soon 8X +RW and 6X -RW media and will test if the burner is compatible with them, NEC also will support DVD-R DL with firmware update near March 2005 when the specs are finalized

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/20/2004 8:30:36 PM   
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Newegg now has thre Plextor 716a ..

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RE: Plextor PX-716A (P-)review! - 12/21/2004 1:28:35 PM   
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hopefully soon there will be a full review

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