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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 12:07:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: fjorger
Hi "emperor",

Did you already analyse the new firmware from TDK (2.78)? Does it have the same versions of the upcoming 2.07 (Nec3500)??

Thanks in advance,
Regards,

FJorgeR.

PS: The Nec3500 2.07 firmware contains support for Ritek and Philips DL media, right? But what about the Nec 2510? Do you think it will ever be released with support for those two types of media?


see here
http://club.cdfreaks.com/showpost.php?p=688731&postcount=162

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 12:11:39 PM   
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NEC 3500 2.07 "not final ?" :

CD-R version: 1.24
CD-RW version: 1.24
DVD-R version: 1.37
DVD-RW version: 1.32
DVD+R version: 1.52
DVD+RW version: 1.37
DVD+R9 version: 1.23

TDK 1616 new FW 2.78 :

CD-R version: 1.24
CD-RW version: 1.24
DVD-R version: 1.37
DVD-RW version: 1.32
DVD+R version: 1.52
DVD+RW version: 1.37
DVD+R9 version: 1.24

DVD+R DL version seems the only difference.
PS : it appears that TDK 2.78 has no SL bitsetting support, as NEC f/w...

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 1:46:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ItalianJob

NEC 3500 2.07 "not final ?" :

CD-R version: 1.24
CD-RW version: 1.24
DVD-R version: 1.37
DVD-RW version: 1.32
DVD+R version: 1.52
DVD+RW version: 1.37
DVD+R9 version: 1.23

TDK 1616 new FW 2.78 :

CD-R version: 1.24
CD-RW version: 1.24
DVD-R version: 1.37
DVD-RW version: 1.32
DVD+R version: 1.52
DVD+RW version: 1.37
DVD+R9 version: 1.24

DVD+R DL version seems the only difference.
PS : it appears that TDK 2.78 has no SL bitsetting support, as NEC f/w...


Thanks "ItalianJob" for your quick reply ;)
BTW what tool do you use to extract those firmware tables? Are you using a Hex editor to compare data?

Regards,

FJorgeR.

PS: Anyone tested the new TDK drive with 2.78 and Ritek DL ? Any good results?

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 1:48:37 PM   
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NEC 3500 2.07 "not final ?" :

PS : it appears that TDK 2.78 has no SL bitsetting support, as NEC f/w...


Do you know if TDK is a NEC OEM? If so that would explain the same "no SL bitsetting support" ;)

Regards,

FJorgeR.

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 1:51:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: minos

Probably forgot to mention...

Here it is:

2.78


Hehehe, Cool :D

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 1:55:38 PM   
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FJorgeR, sorry not yet cause i am out of town, will do ASAP, the NEC 3500A v2.07 supports Ritek DL media, not Philips one...

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 2:11:41 PM   
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9/7/2004: Real soon the review will be ready, how about a week? or less but this is not a promise.


Alright, one week is over today... I know, this wasn't a promise, but...

is firmware 2.07 newer than 2.16? or is it an erratum?

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[Deleted] - 9/14/2004 2:18:50 PM   
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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 3:51:43 PM   
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My shop is getting nervous, since they recieved my ordered the NEC3500 already but I still want to wait for the review here before I grab it.

Sorry to bother you, but does "a little time more" mean, I 'd better cancel my reservation or just delay it a few days (because of sudden illness)

By the way: Thanks for the great reviews!

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 5:03:10 PM   
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i just tested RITEK DL media with the 2.07 firmware, and IT IS NOT SUPPORTED... I get the same errors like 2510A. The drive is supporting only 1X writing speed, and is trying to start burning at 1X, giving errors at lead in (no coaster though)...

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 5:31:19 PM   
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so...when should we expect the NEC 3500 review!! SOON (as in today) i hope! i've been waiting...and waiting...and waiting....!

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 5:46:42 PM   
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so...when should we expect the NEC 3500 review!! SOON (as in today) i hope! i've been waiting...and waiting...and waiting....!



Not so soon, since there is other hardware that need posting... Thursday or Friday i think... Not 100% sure though...

Of course, you can always post any question concerning 3500A, since all tests are finished...

You might get a small "taste" of the 3500 review even before the posting date... the TDK 1616N might come first ...


< Message edited by kogos -- 9/14/2004 5:49:10 PM >

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/14/2004 7:54:54 PM   
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so...all the NEC3500 tests are finished, eh? ok...i have a few questions if you please:

1. is there any way to remove the 'rip-lock' (without using unoffical firmwire if possible)?
2. would you say it is better then the pioneer 108?
3. does it support bitsetting?

many thanks

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/15/2004 3:17:43 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cheeseandbun

so...all the NEC3500 tests are finished, eh? ok...i have a few questions if you please:

1. is there any way to remove the 'rip-lock' (without using unoffical firmwire if possible)?
2. would you say it is better then the pioneer 108?
3. does it support bitsetting?

many thanks


Ok, for your answers:

1. There is no rip-lock in 3500A since it can read at 16X maximum speed with no problem...

2. Wait for the review for a comparison... for now, i can only say that NEC is surely faster, because of the CLV writing strategy the Pioneer uses...

3. Official firmwares allow only DL media booktype changes...

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RE: New Firmware for NEC 3500A: v2.07 - 9/15/2004 6:17:03 AM   
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FJorgeR, sorry not yet cause i am out of town, will do ASAP, the NEC 3500A v2.07 supports Ritek DL media, not Philips one...


No Problem at all

BTW I meant CMC (Philips), so there isn't any support to it, right?

Regarding Ritek DL support, is it true what "kogos" is saying? Meaning no Ritek DL support yet

Thanks for your attention,
Regards,

FJorgeR.

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