I am waiting for the new Toshiba 1902 to make a huge roundup

(in reply to bwanaaa)

In my opinion, a good DAE ripper for scratched discs may have become near extinct. I hope I am wrong. Based on my experience, Aopen CRW3248 is far better than the other drives (about 10) accessible to me, including Aopen's later writers, in terms of rip-to-rip accuracy and ripping speed. I'd be interested to know about drives with comparable performances.

(in reply to bwanaaa)

that is correct, its very hard to find a good DAE ripper now days, as i said when the new toshiba arrives, we will make a big roundup, at least would be interesting for many users

(in reply to muchin)

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(in reply to bwanaaa)

Your response is extremingly quick. Since you are going to do a roundup, let me describe a peculiar obervation (not reported before to my knowledge) so that necessary steps may be incorporated into the tests.

I encountered very slow speed when using EAC to extract old CDs, so I bought a TEAC CD-W524E recorder, which was reported to be the best in dealing with scracthed audio CD. It extracted one such track fast with 100% in track quality. But alas, when I looked at the wav file, it appeared strange to me, for almost the entire track was full-scale. I then used Nero CDDAE to do the extraction with every drives available to me then. All other readers, including TEAC 532S and 540E CD-ROM, gave similar wav forms, which are entirely different from that obtained with the TEAC recorder. According to the review by this Website, Aopen CDW3248 also excels in ripping scratched CD, hence I acquired the writer and solved my problem. With that particular troubled track, the drive gave about 96% in EAC track quality with pretty high speed and seemingly right wav form; I do not have a new CD of the same title for comparison though.

(in reply to emperor)

I find my BTC 1008, and my LiteOn 52327S are both excellent at reading scratched audio CD originals. They are both quiet as well (I cannot say that about my LiteOn 52246S which sounds like a jet engine on takeoff).

(in reply to bwanaaa)

from what i read, the plextor premium is the best - even better than the 712A

(in reply to digitaldoc)

I own both a Plextor and 2 LiteOn cdrw's. The Plextor is as good as, but not better than the LiteOns at audio tasks. Can you provide a link to what you read about the Plextor Premium?

(in reply to bwanaaa)

The older CD recorders from TEAC are the best period. I have the 4X (Teac CDW-54E), it is the highest quality ripper to ever emerge as a consumer device. It is a 4/4/32, has a brass spindle and weighs about twice the mass as the newer drives. It is limited at 8X DAE, but can sustain this all the way through a MASSIVELY scratched CD using EAC. The only CD-DA's it *can't* handle are those that have their reflective layer/dye scratched off. It has a OEM firmware suspected to be modified by IBM, that cannot be updated. I never found out the whole truth regarding that drive. It is all black. Scares me to this day how it works so well...

Only problem is 8X is too slow, so I hope this new Toshiba can replace my ancient original LTD-163 Lite-On DVD-ROM for DAE. That Lite-On cannot handle scrathes as well as I'd like, but is very fast around 50X DAE, sounds like a jet engine tho.

(in reply to digitaldoc)

quote:

ORIGINAL: emperor

I am waiting for the new Toshiba 1902 to make a huge roundup

is it soup yet?

(in reply to emperor)

That will be a great roundup when it comes together.

(in reply to bwanaaa)

Sorry no, still the SD-M1912 hasn't appeared around

(in reply to digitaldoc)

It would be great to have a definitive review of the DAE charateristics of the following classes of drives:

cd-rw's
dvd-rom's
dvd/cdrw's
dvdrw's

I doubt cdrom's should even be tested. DAE speed and quality is an important characteristic of a drive, but often difficult to obtain. I personally would guess that the dvdrw's of the latest crop are well suited for audio extraction, with cdrw's not far behind. It would be great to see such a test with objective data though.

(in reply to emperor)

We will try our best, as usual, with the toshiba dvd-rom drives

(in reply to digitaldoc)

I still use a Yammy CRW-F1 for music ripping and writing. That combined with the Audio Master function in Nero works awesome for me. I really wish they didn't throw in the towel on drives like they did. I like their burners. If this one breaks, I would have to wonder what I would use. I have a couple of other writers by Samsung, NEC, and HP, and Sony. The Samsung comes close, but I still prefer the Yamaha.

-NGR

(in reply to emperor)

Toshiba SD-M1912

http://web.axelero.hu/thedog/TOSHIBA_DVD-ROM_SD-M1912_TM00%20cd-rom%20audio.html

(in reply to NotesGooRoo)