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CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 4:09:54 AM   
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Hi i just got a Yamaha CRW-F1 internal drive and a Vipower VP-6228 USB 2.0 cd-rom external enclosure and decidd to write my first ever hardware review at http://i4net.tv/yamaha-crwf1/

Yamaha CRW-F1 has made 14 cd-r coasters so far :(

I'm having lots of problems with CRW-F1 drive giving me scsi/ide command aborted errors particularly when i

1. use Disc-at-once method of burning to taiyo yuden white printable 80min cd-rs, laser premium gold 80min 40x cd-rs, kodak ultima80 gold+silver 12x cd-rs or regularly 80min burns on opti-ups 90min 24x cd-rs

Or

2. when overburn to opti-ups 90min 24x speed cd-r discs




above 3 images with laser 80min 40x cd-rs using disc-at-once method

this was with opti-ups 90min 24x cd-r overburn with disc-at-once

Now if i use track-at-once i don't get any errors at all with Yamaha crw-f1 burning regularly <80min cd-rs

track-at-once with Optimum Write Speed control enabled


track-at-once with Optimum Write Speed control disabled


I've disabled auto detect cd-roms in registry, disabled NAV 2002 autoprotect, and disabled WinXP IMAPI service and have tried using several versions of Nero all with same result everytime

WinXP Pro
tried
Yamaha's bundled Nero 5.5.8.2
Nero 5.5.9.0 from Nero web site
Nero 5.5.9.9 leaked version

P4 2.26B Northwood
Abit BD7-II non-raid
512MB Corsair XMS3200PT cas 2-3-3
128MB X-Micro GF4 Ti4200 VIVO
2 x 80 Western Digital Caviar 800JB 8MB cache hdd
(in Lian Li RH58 Aluminium removable drive racks on Promise ATA100 controller)
Pioneer 16x 106s DVD-rom (primary master)
LiteOn 32x/12x/40x CD-RW burner (secondary master)
Chieftec/EYO AX01-SLD Aluminium Mid Tower Case
520W Topower Gold Dual Fan PSU

I did have ASPI not properly installed error


but i corrected that with ForceASPI which fixed it... but even after that i still get SCSI/IDE command aborted errors as explained above only when using disc-at-once, track-at-once is fine ...

any help is appreciated :)

thanks

George

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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 7:07:20 AM   
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The Yamaha is installed as internal IDE device OR external USB 2.0 device?


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 7:28:31 AM   
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the Yamaha CRW-F1E internal is installed as a USB 2.0 device via the Vipower VP-6228 USB 2.0 external cd-rom case
[img] http://i4net.tv/yamaha-crwf1/hardware-devices.jpg[/img]



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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:41:39 AM   
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It's not designed to be put in that, that's why you get time out errors etc...


If you wanted an external, why don't you just wait like me for the proper external models, which will have none of the probs you speak of...


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:55:08 AM   
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BTW, not a bad 1st review...

A few more benchmarks would have been better.


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 12:31:04 PM   
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Hi George
Try the ASPI FIX and see if this cures your ASPI Problems just go to :-
http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6059
And at the bottom of the page you will see a link to download it !!!
I hope this helps !!!


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 5:56:29 PM   
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quote:
Originally posted by Clint

It's not designed to be put in that, that's why you get time out errors etc...


If you wanted an external, why don't you just wait like me for the proper external models, which will have none of the probs you speak of...

well i wanted an internal but was too lazy to open up my case hehe.. and the externals weren't available in OZ at the time.. any ideas why it only faults when disc-at-once is used and works fine with track at once ?


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 5:57:25 PM   
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quote:
Originally posted by Laffin Assassin

Hi George
Try the ASPI FIX and see if this cures your ASPI Problems just go to :-
http://www.cdrinfo.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6059
And at the bottom of the page you will see a link to download it !!!
I hope this helps !!!

thanks i already installed them still same problem when disc-at-once is used to burn to cd-r


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 5:58:44 PM   
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quote:
Originally posted by Clint

BTW, not a bad 1st review...

A few more benchmarks would have been better.

thanks part 2 of review will have more benchies just hoping there is a fix for this problem without going as far as just installing internally (which would make my first part of the review useless hehe)


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:14:21 PM   
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Yep it sure will !!!


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:17:12 PM   
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okay still in USB 2.0 external case.. but now getting errors when track-at-once is used as well in Nero 5.5.9.9 offical release

program area empty ???


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:19:25 PM   
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it says
Current program area is empty
(Current program area is empty)

This error message appears if you have exceeded the permissible limits while burning, i.e. you want to burn more on the CD than there is room for.



but it's a laser 80min 40x cd-r with only 613MB being burnt ?


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:29:04 PM   
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Have you tried Different Media [?]


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 8:40:51 PM   
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with the program area empty/can not perform fixation, i burnt the cd-r with track-at-once and finalize cd unchecked
would that be the problem ?

haven't tried other media for this particular burn... but i've made a total of 18 CD-R coasters with the yamaha so far!

tomorrow i'll try it installed as IDE device in my pc *** sigh ***


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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 9:09:13 PM   
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Hi Again
" haven't tried other media for this particular burn... but i've made a total of 18 CD-R coasters with the yamaha so far! "
Well if they are all the same Media I suggest you try some TY or some Verbatim as these seem to be the most Compatible with the CRW-F1 !!!



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RE: CRW-F1 + USB 2.0 newbie - 8/31/2002 10:02:38 PM   
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Well.. first off, I'd suggest you connect the yamaha through the IDE since in the first place, the yamaha was never meant to be used in that USB 2.0 enclosure.

Slap that yamaha to the IDE, and slap that lite-on into the enclosure.

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