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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/14/2002 4:49:49 AM   
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> Did you test with 1.0B firmware revision

Yeap! Some issues fixed some other haven't...

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/14/2002 5:14:37 AM   
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quote:

Some issues fixed some other haven't...




Even the F1 has flaws...

I guess theres no such thing as the *perfect* burner. But I'll guess, the CRW-F1 would be close .

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/14/2002 1:23:20 PM   
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Well at least it will get better with new Firmware !!!

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/14/2002 9:57:45 PM   
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One always hopes it will. But the question is, when it hits retail, is it going to be "beta" hardware or will Yamaha get things together? I'm tired of buying products that companies have to "fix" after they release them.

No EFM by way.

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Edited by - tazdevl on 07/14/2002 21:58:21

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/15/2002 4:29:13 AM   
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> Even the F1 has flaws...

Of course it has flaws. Remember that we want a burner to be hell fast, has best writing quality, doing SD2 by hardware, authoring perfect AudioCDs etc...

I guess day by day we become harder with manufacturers...

> Well at least it will get better with new Firmware !!!

Probably it will. We have mentioned the weak points to Yamaha, its time for them to fix them...

> No EFM by way.

We can confirm that, at least with v1.0A firmware. We haven't re-tested ,yet, with v1.0B. Since the drive includes OAK chipset, you must not expected great miracles for EFM correction. Also current EFM correction may become useless with newer copy protection themes (like StarForce, TAGES). There is always the software overpass (AWS like features)...

> is it going to be "beta" hardware or

The hardware is finished, firmware is still in progress. I guess the retail package will include probably v1.0B firmware, and newer firmware revisions may come soon...

> I'm tired of buying products that companies have to "fix" after they release them.

Probably you refer to LiteOn products? They tend to release products very quickly and afterwards releasing tons of firmware updates to fix problems. Not the best way in my opinion...

But of course you "...get what you pay for..." (sorry Clint, i had to use that phrase)

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/15/2002 1:08:34 PM   
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John are reviews being held off for the release of Nero 5592?

Also, in your conversations, not sure if you're limited by an NDA, I'm sure you have brought up the lack of choices for write speeds. What has their response been?

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/15/2002 2:54:35 PM   
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> John are reviews being held off for the release of Nero 5592?

Yes and no...As i said we need to short out things before proceed with review.

> What has their response been?

You will read in the review...But it supposed that the drive selects automatically the best writing speed when you select 44X

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/15/2002 5:21:19 PM   
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Hm... I received email reply from Nero support people last week which I read yesterday. They (or he?) told me to throw my Nero CD away after installing Nero 5590 version.

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 2:09:06 AM   
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John, I'm not so shure Yamaha CRW-F1 uses OAK chipsets. Yamaha claims they have developed the "YDC132-V" especially for the F1 series.

http://www.yamaha.co.jp/news/2002/02060301.html (scroll to bottom )



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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 7:13:26 AM   
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It also includes an OAK chipset and of course the new Yamaha chipset. The Yammi CRWF1 may do SD v2.0-v2.30 but not the latest v2.51+...Who knows, maybew newer firmware upgrade fix that... cough cough

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 8:49:46 AM   
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It also includes an OAK chipset and of course the new Yamaha chipset. The Yammi CRWF1 may do SD v2.0-v2.30 but not the latest v2.51+...Who knows, maybew newer firmware upgrade fix that... cough cough

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SD v2.00 - v2.40.010??

Without AWS??? So its as good as the PleXWriters at SD2?????

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 11:09:16 AM   
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Hi Clint
You Say " So its as good as the PleXWriters at SD2????? "
It will be better I am certain Yamaha will sort it out no Problem anyway whats wrong with using AWS ?
Dabs .com are saying only 3-4 days now I can't wait

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 11:34:52 AM   
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Can someone edumacate me on AWS real quick like. What does the acronym stand for?

Thx

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 12:05:29 PM   
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Hi tazdevl
A.W.S stands for Amplify Weak Sectors among other things it is a part of Safedisk 2.
For you to Enable it with you Living in the USA.
You must change your regional settings (in control panel) to Australia or Canada or something other than U.S. or Japan.

1) Uninstall CCD
2) Reboot
3) "Move to another country"
4) Reboot
5) Reinstall CCD, then AWS and Hide CD-R media will work for you.
But make sure you use Clony to do the settings in Clone CD.

I hope this helps !



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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 2:54:12 PM   
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Ah nm... just didn't know what the acronym meant. Familiar with it though.

So they took the amplifyweak reg key in CCD?

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RE: New Yamaha UK Price - 7/16/2002 5:49:47 PM   
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Wait for the final review. It will say all interesting information inside about SD2

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