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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/6/2001 10:43:14 AM   
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Well i went and bought an ATA66 IDE cable and that didnt work either.

Earlier today i went into work and tested the drive on my pc.

guess what !!

the damn thing worked !


i cleared my CMOS, tried again...nothing.

i flashed my bios with my old bios,.....pc would not work !

i flashed my bios with my new bios.....pc works again but "lite-on" drive still wont let my pc boot !

i then made a boot disk, removed my HD and tried to boot with just floppy & cdrom support !

guess what .... nothing, same thing as always...power light on "lite-on" stays lit, bios wont boot, no post, no nothing. just a black screen !

iam now totally stuck. i have tried everything !





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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/6/2001 3:14:19 PM   
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I have the same prob. I've gotten the drive to bootup once and work with DiscJuggler, but not to work with Nero yet. THought nero recognized it ONCE, I didn't burn anything and now it won't detect. To get teh pc booted, I just plugged in another drive like a cdrom into the ide2 slave where i wanted my liteon, and then i went into device manager and unclicked DMA, then shut down, plugged in the liteon and she booted. Worked with Discjuggler, but not with any other prog that I tried. So I know DMA should be enabled, but it won't boot when it is. Weird **** ain't it?


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/6/2001 4:16:02 PM   
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i am going to give that a go now m8 !

didnt think of that one.


i have been to the lite-on site and found a new bios for the drive.

it is 5s07.zip yet it doesnt say on the site what it fixes ?!

does anyone know ?! (after testing the drive on my pc at work i noticed the firmware was version 5 - i think)

could flashing the firmware do the job as well ?!
(i would need to go back into work to try but is it worth while).

thanks

SM


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/6/2001 5:25:00 PM   
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Well i just tried disabling the DMA from my Cdrom, uninstalled, reinstalled "lite-on" (again). And yet agian nothing !

i also went and checked the "firmware" on the drive and it already has the latest firmware.

so bollocks to it.

the bloody drive is going back and im getting a plex !




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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/6/2001 8:05:38 PM   
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Sorry to jump on your post mate but i am also sending back my lite-on 24/10/40 burners as they are a ****.I wish i didn't sell my plextor 12/10/32 last week as i had it for around 10 months with no probs.When i get refunded back for my 2 drives i am going to buy the new plextor 24/10/40.


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/8/2001 10:47:22 PM   
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I as well will send it back, but do i return it to newegg.com or to Lite-On, gimmme some info on liteon if thats where i need to send it.
cheers


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/9/2001 1:03:13 PM   
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I have now returned my "lite-on 24102b" and i have requested they supply me with the new "PLEXTOR 241040" CDrw drive :)

hopefully i wont have the same problems as i had with the "lite-on".

SM


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/12/2001 1:38:49 AM   
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Hi,

Are you sure you just didn't have the ide cable backwards? There's a red stripe that goes along one side of the cable - that side of the cable must be connected to PIN 1 side of the drive connector.

What you describe is what happens when this cable is connected backwards, either the computer will hang at post, or the computer will post but give some sort of IDE/DRIVE failure message at selfcheck, and the drive light will stay on constantly.

And I've never had a UDMA66/100 drive, but do ATA66/100 cables work with <=UDMA33 devices? I thought that they don't?


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/12/2001 6:34:02 AM   
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optical drives [cd-roms cd writers]are not udma 4 /66/100,They are only
ata 33.They will work on a 80 conducter cable[udma66/100]so that you can still use to devices on one ide
ie hard drive set as master[udma 4/ 66/100 device]

writer set as slave [ata 33 device]



Edited by - nicki98.freeserve.co.uk on 10/12/2001 06:37:13

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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/13/2001 3:16:13 AM   
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It seems the liteon is buggy on some boards, works fine on intel 850. Although you get what you pay for intel chips(more expensive, generally more compatible.) they seem to work for liteons better than via or amd systems(processors and mobo are cheaper, somewhat faster also.). I'd say try the lite on, if it doesn't work then go for plex. Please no flaming, if you love amd or hate intel thats your choice. Spend your money where you like and economics will sort it out. Last note, try the clone clinic site, very helpful folks!


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/13/2001 5:16:46 AM   
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This is a common problem and it is not Liteon's problem. It is a problem with the motherboard chipsets not working well with the CDwriter. At work a staff member just bought a Intel Pentuim 4 with the latest chipset by Intel and is having the same problems what is decribed here with an ACER Cdwriter. VIA chipsets are one of the biggest problems also. So I hope when space monkey gets his new Plextor it will work otherwise he will have to get rid of the motherboard in order to make the CDwriter work.

Shermanator


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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/23/2001 5:47:28 PM   
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Well every one,

here is the update on my CDrw problems.

After waiting ages for "gb.buy" to refund my money for the liteon24102b drive and bought the "plextor 2410TA CDrw".

I have just spent the past 4 hours trying to get this bugger to work.

I have experienced exactly the same problem as with the liteon drive.

ie/ connect drive to ide2 as master (jumper as master), power on pc, nothing what so ever, no beep, no bios, no post, just a black screen.

I thought i would remove everything from my pc to see it there was a lack of power to the drive.

So i just had the Mobo+plextor, powered on and guess what ? **** all.

I am now totally stressed out !

what is so different about these new 24x drives that certain mobos dont like ?

spacemonkey

very very very pissed off !




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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/23/2001 11:16:27 PM   
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So tell us what board are you using?? Chipset etc...

Joel..

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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/24/2001 4:13:28 AM   
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Hmmm are you really sure you are not putting the IDE cable on incorrectly?

proutman

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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/24/2001 7:01:44 AM   
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microstar 6178 v1:1 mobo

http://www.msi.com.tw/products/mainboard/mainboard.php?model=MS-6178

the board has the intel 810i chipset.

proutman,

the IDE will only go in one direction m8.

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As my mobo doesnt seem to like high speed burners would the following item be worth trying ?

PCI IDE ULTRA DMA33

this is an add in card which can be found in the "CPC" catalogue "item code CS02994".


spacemonkey




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RE: lite-on 24x10x40 CDrw nightmare - 10/24/2001 9:45:34 AM   
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Hi All,

The latest 80 way cables are directional, they may fit on the motherboard 2 ways (e.g. each end) but in fact will only work with the cable one way round (normally coloured blue? I think to m/board).

Worst still the other two connectors are also specific and normally the one in the middle is for the master device. If you put the cdrw on the end connector as seems logical then sometimes they dont work. So it is worth trying all combinations.

I had a drive once that would only work with the jumper set to cable select and not master/slave so it is worth trying this also.

Good luck in your quest


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