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Plextor 24/10/40A Problem? - 12/30/2001 11:45:10 PM   
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I have a Plextor 24/10/40A w/firmware 1.03. Some audio discs I put into my Plextor simply aren't seen by the drive or Windows 98SE. The only new one that was behaving like this is the Gorillaz CD which is meant to be able to be played in a PC drive. The majority of them are enhanced cd's aka mixed mode cds. My Pioneer 105s drive will read the discs quite happily and so will my stereo system. These arent my discs and were borrowed and some of them were a bit scratched but nothing too major, is it possible the TOC area was damaged and unreadable by the Plex?

One cd I remember, is by Regurgitator - .....Art wouldnt even be spun up by the drive. I have put quite a number of audio cds into my drive and it has recognised them but the problems seem to lie with Enhanced cds and the occasional audio cd. However the Plextor has been able to read some enhanced cds only some give it problems.

What normally happens is the drive light blinks green and slowly trying to read the disc with one that it cant read other then the regurgitator cd which it didn't even read at all.

I haven't had any problems with any data cd's.

This also happened with firmware 1.02 I never used 1.00 because I updated as soon as I got the drive it is TLA #100 as well.

Anyone had any similar problems or theories?

Any help is appreciated.

Edited by - _T-BONE_ on 12/30/2001 23:46:21
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RE: Plextor 24/10/40A Problem? - 1/1/2002 4:51:53 AM   
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Are people able to help me on this by getting any enhanced audio cd's and trying to read and copy the pc data to the hard drive with the Plextor 24/10/40A.

I just bought the drive and want to get to the bottom of this and find out if it is a bad drive, bad TLA#, bug or flaw with the drive/chipset/laser/firmware or just a badly made/pressed/set out cd(s) by music companies

The enhanced cds that have caused me problems are:

Billie Piper - Day and Night Single (Plextor would have trouble reading the cd and copying the data from it would get intermittant errors reading the data but finally and exhaustively copied the data getting individual files at a time. Plays in stereo)

Frenzal Rhomb - A Man's not a Camel (I tried this on my Pioneer 105s and had the exact same problems, it seems to be badly pressed. Starts at 9 minutes copy time and then comes up with "Error: Could not read data from specified device". It plays on my Stereo)

Gorillaz - Gorillaz (Plextor would not read it, Pioneer would and copied the data from it. Stereo also plays the cd.)

Regurgitator - ......art (Not sure if this was an enhanced cd or not, the damned drive just wouldnt read it. Did not test In Pioneer. Works in stereo)

Batchelor Pad Royale (Not sure if this was an enhanced cd or not, the damned drive just wouldnt read it. Did not test In Pioneer, Works in stereo)

There was a couple more of them but the only one I didnt have a hitch with so far was the Bomfunk MC's - In Stereo Album.

I have crossed posted this at cdfreaks, and cdrlabs forums to get as much coverage as possible.

John if you could help here that would be greatly appreciated too.



Edited by - _T-BONE_ on 01/01/2002 06:16:36

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RE: Plextor 24/10/40A Problem? - 1/5/2002 4:08:45 PM   
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Hi ,i don't have a plex24 but i don't think that that is bad pressed media (so many discs you wold have to be very unlucky), some scratches don't look serious but they can give the drives a very hard time to read (very dependant of the firmware).
you can try to create an enhanced with nero and then see if your drive takes very long to read them (or not at all), in that case your drive is damaged if your drive reads the disc perfectly then it's the pressed cds.
bad luck

R00KIE

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RE: Plextor 24/10/40A Problem? - 1/13/2002 7:22:22 AM   
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Bump. http://www.cdfreaks.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=38931

Check here for an update on the situation.


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RE: Plextor 24/10/40A Problem? - 1/14/2002 9:39:29 AM   
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you can wait for a new firmware to come out!
sometimes plextor greatly improves reading performance with new firmware
or you can try different software you never know if its the software or the hardware
you know that lots of people talk about protected discs and backing them up like they are pros and the only thing they know is to put the cd inside the drive and press a few butons in clonecd, they don't even think about trying other software before posting the most stupid posts i have ever seen.
i understand you you got a new drive and it doesn't perform as you expected and you think that its broken.(i would think the same) but calm down and eliminate one by one all the failure possibilities before you start going crazy.
and never beleive too much in the posts you read just because someone has a problem similar to yours it doesn't mean that it's the same prob
(lots of different pc configs and software)

and btw i have followed the link you posted and i have read the posts, thats why i wrote this.

you know that those cds may be copy protected and its natural that they beave like that !


R00KIE

Edited by - R00KIE on 01/14/2002 09:41:28

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RE: Plextor 24/10/40A Problem? - 2/4/2002 6:57:06 PM   
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R00KIE, I understand you are trying to be helpful but,

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and btw i have followed the link you posted and i have read the posts, thats why i wrote this.


You did not read the posts properly.

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you can wait for a new firmware to come out!
sometimes plextor greatly improves reading performance with new firmware


I tried all the different firmwares and so did the technician from where I bought it from. No change. I could wait for new firmware, but whats the point in that. Check out Plextor's take on the situation.

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or you can try different software you never know if its the software or the hardware


It's not the software. Read that thread again properly.

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you know that lots of people talk about protected discs and backing them up like they are pros and the only thing they know is to put the cd inside the drive and press a few butons in clonecd, they don't even think about trying other software before posting the most stupid posts i have ever seen.



The discs are not copy protected. Its not about trying other software, it has absolutely phuck all to do with software. Its about getting the drive to read the discs fullstop.

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i understand you you got a new drive and it doesn't perform as you expected and you think that its broken.(i would think the same) but calm down and eliminate one by one all the failure possibilities before you start going crazy.



What makes you think I am going crazy. When I was troubleshooting I was calm and rational, because if I wasn't it would cloud my judgement. Once again read the thread correctly.

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you know that those cds may be copy protected and its natural that they beave like that !


Once again they are not copy protected.







Edited by - _T-BONE_ on 02/04/2002 18:58:06

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