sherman just reading your own posts are we
some forum sites have been re organised since i got this drive
i assure you people have posted problems with 24101b[invoice number]
now am nearly sure that your findings are correct
and i dont think corn is going to be disapointed
but if you have read postings since our debate you would know that.

2B OR NOT 2B THAT IS THE QUESTION

Since the start of this thread[well before the myhtical l24101b debate
was cleared up]it has only been my sole intention to make sure corn
did not end up disapointed.hopefuly corn conntacted his own retailer
and got answers and guarantees he needed so that should he have received a 24101b
then he would have grounds for a full refund with no re stock charge.
If i was in corns position yes i would have taken the risk and tested
the drive.[Yes i would open the box]but that would be my risk to take.
So i say to people stick to the facts,myths, and information, in the order it became available, and not just contribute to the thread now the smoke has cleared




If it has become ilegal to be cautious when buying a product you cant see in the flesh [ie online] THEN SHOOT ME



Edited by - nicki98.freeserve.co.uk on 09/05/2001 07:34:34

(in reply to Cornfused)

ferrari where you 100% sure when you placed your order for the 24101b
that it would install as a 24102b ,

(in reply to Cornfused)

yes, i am sure that the site i ordered from listed the model as 1b. they all listed as 1b 3wks ago. the date of manufacturing on mine is july 2001. Anyway, i would just want to ask one question: Have anyone actually got something that was recognized by the computer as 241001b or any liteon 24x that didn't burn sd2? That would be the real question we need to answer i think.

(in reply to Cornfused)

i think the myth is all cleared up
but ferrari you did not answere my question
did you know you was going to receive an sd2 compatable writer or did
you take a chance when other people was unsure.
You see i did not order over the web,i was able to find a stockist
only few miles away, and they allowed me to open the box and check the
model number before i payed.Becouse i did not want 1b as they where rummerd to exist then. The review on this site says they also had
24101b,but is that the number printed on the drive or the invoice.
Over here retailers advertise liteons as either 12x,16x,24x no 1b or 2b.

regards jimmy

(in reply to Cornfused)

Nicki- I take your word that your saw the posts, but whatever has happened I am sure that if their was a 24101b in existance it has pretty much dissapeared or Liteon took it off the market before it ever got any popularity mayby in its first week of release because as of now it is nowhere to be seen. Anyway I am betting that Cornfused has the 24102B as this is what everyone currently has and this is what everyone is mentioning they have all over the forums. So cornfused (by the way-did you make this name up or was it a misprint? peculiar) Ok CORNFUSED! Go ahead and open the box! as all mankind is waiting to see if you have succeeded!! and again Remember THE FORCE!!! WILL!! BE!! WITH!! YOU!!

Shermanator

(in reply to Cornfused)

sherman
my liteon has been happily sat in my rig for six to seven weeks now
i know i had a 24102b and could confirm to people that indeed it can
backup all if not most protections.
Now when i sat here watching things unfold over the waters, people asked is the 24101b the same as the 24102b released in the uk
Tech heads in most forums answered no it is not,since the 12x1b and 16x1b and somwhere a xxxx1c can not backup sd2 so it is logical to assume that the24x1b will not.All this over a stock code error.
1b are burnproof no sd2
2b are smartburn yes sd2

but somebody will tell me different

Tonight i am faced with a dilema i dont whether to stay glued to the net for the grand unvailing of corns 24102b or watch England qualify
for the world cup





Edited by - nicki98.freeserve.co.uk on 09/05/2001 11:01:38

(in reply to Cornfused)

nick, i guess i did take a chance on that ;). well, at least that site which i bought my writer from, they didn't start selling the liteon 24x until after 8/15/01. so there is a small comfort in there somewhere when i ordered it that it is probably a good one that can do sd2.

(in reply to Cornfused)

There is a 24x 101 ver but there is no b aftewr it. the 101 ver is a overclocked 16x drive while the 102b version has is own chipset. They MIGHT tell you there is only one version, in which case they dont want you to find out defects.

(in reply to Cornfused)

at last
sherman can i come out of the sin bin now

its half time ENGLAND are 1-0 up
but where is corn and his burner



Edited by - nicki98.freeserve.co.uk on 09/05/2001 15:57:17

(in reply to Cornfused)

OK Nicki -you are most welcome to come out of the Bin of Sin, but the question is - Who put you in their the first place? HE HE HE HE and
next I hope Cornfused didn't take a runner!! He must be still fighting it out in the CDWR Box of doom! HE HE HE Wheres the number!! Wheres the number!! Where is the NUMBER!! Come-on Cornfused I told you the FOrce is WITH YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!

(in reply to Cornfused)

I received my drive today. I was able to open the box and remove the packing material without causing any physical damage (i.e., I could return it). The label on the drive says it was manufactured July 2001 and the model number is LTR-24102b.

www.pchardware4u.com is where I bought it.

I have already flashed the CD-RW with the image from LiteOn's site.

Now, for the real questions... I'm attempting to backup my copy of Max Payne as I have read that that is a pain in the rump (Safedisk 2). Here are the settings I am using:

Read Speed (4x)
Fast Error Skip
Read Retries: 3
Error corrections: none

This was suggested by ClonyXL.

When CloneCD goes to work, it reports that the drive doesn't support the current fast error skip settings and sets the error corrections to Hardware. The drive then makes an undulating noise as it spins up and down trying to read the error sectors. After 20 minutes, it has progressed to sector 4651.

Is this normal and expected? Are the settings accurate? It sounds painful and at this rate it will take _forever_.

Thanks.

/corn

(in reply to Cornfused)

Finally their is an answer. Was waiting for this. I am "Cornfused" with the fast error skipping going back to hardware. As I havent yet backed up a Safedisk 2 CD yet. But does anyone have any info? also cornfused are you using the latest copy of CloneCD? this may solve the riddle.

Shermanator

(in reply to Cornfused)

yes the drive uses hardware error correct
my drive changes to that if i select any other

sd2 backup general settings i use

fast error skip set to 3 read retries
error correct set to hardware
corn i havnt got max pain
but with latest f/w s507
my drive reads sd2 games
undying and a/m alice
in only a few mins
have you enabled the dma on your drive



the noise is the drive reding bad sectors

i have had success in backing up the games above with read retries set to 0 but the original disk has to be clean and no scratches
the read time is greatly readuced with this setting

just noticed you read at 4x try setting it to max i have had no probs with that





Edited by - nicki98.freeserve.co.uk on 09/06/2001 08:59:19

(in reply to Cornfused)

ok.. ive been reading thru these posts, i have one question.. what is the differnce between Burn-Proof and SmartBurn? im needing a new drive and i DID have a 12x Liteon and I really enjoyed it, so iwas going to purchase another, but the new 24x said it used SmartBurn. oh yes, anyone who replies to this, would you please mail me at smacndeez@yahoo.com with subject=Burn-proof vs. SmartBurn or somthing of that nature? thanx. Smac

(in reply to Cornfused)