I knew it'd never be easy but...

Anyway, I finally decided to bite the bullet & get myself a DVD writer, so I did. It's a Philips PBDV1640b. Plugged it in, it recognised fine etc... Had a couple of CDs that needed burning, so I did them first - no probs. DVDs play fine too. Then I tried writing a DVD...
I'm trying to write data using nero 6.6.0.16 to a Verbatim DVD-R, & it fails as soon as it tries to start burning :( just a "write error", nothing more descriptive than that!

I've tried a few DVDs & get the same error, so I don't suspect the media.
I've updated the firmware.
I've installed a new ASPI layer (using forceaspi17).
I've tried burning at a lower speed.
I've tried taking the other CD drive out, so that the DVD's on it's own IDE channel.
I've tried pulling my hair out.

Any more ideas would be much appreciated!

Oh, it's on XPSP2, 1.4Tbird, 512mb ram, gigabyte 7vt600p-RZ mobo.

Cheers!

Here's the error log... the relevant bit appears to be the "Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)"?



Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
ahead WinASPI: File 'f:\Ahead\nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.74, size=164112 bytes, created 26/10/2004 18:35:34
Nero Version: 6.6.0.16
Internal Version: 6, 6, 0, 16b

Recorder:             <PHILIPS PBDV1640P>       Version: B3.6 - HA 1 TA 1 - 6.6.0.16
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 1
 Drive buffer  :      2048kB
 Bus Type      :      default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM:               <OPTORITE CD-RW CW5201    >Version: 220E - HA 1 TA 0 - 6.6.0.16
 Adapter driver:      <atapi>                   HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral       : TOSHIBA MK1814GAV                atapi Port 0 ID 0  DMA: On
DiskPeripheral       : FUJITSU MPD3173AT                atapi Port 0 ID 1  DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral      : OPTORITE CD-RW CW5201            atapi Port 1 ID 0  DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral      : PHILIPS PBDV1640P                atapi Port 1 ID 1  DMA: On

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
OPTORITE CD-RW CW5201      G:   CDRom0
PHILIPS PBDV1640P          H:   CDRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 74448896 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
BUFE           : 0
Physical memory     : 511MB (523760kB)
Free physical memory: 181MB (185812kB)
Memory in use       : 64 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry    : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

30.9.2005
ISO compilation
18:26:36    #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6356
    Iso document burn settings
    ------------------------------------------
    Determine maximum speed : FALSE
    Simulate                : FALSE
    Write                   : TRUE
    Finalize CD             : TRUE
    Multisession            : FALSE
    Burning mode            : DAO
    Mode                    : 1
    ISO Level               : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
    Character set           : ISO 9660
    Joliet                  : TRUE
    Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
    Allow more than 255 characters in path  : TRUE
    Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions        : TRUE
   
18:26:36    #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 127
    Reader running
   
18:26:36    #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 122
    Writer PHILIPS  PBDV1640P        running
   
18:26:36    #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3309
    First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
   
18:26:37    #5 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3233
    Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
   
18:26:37    #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 270
    Last possible write address on media:  2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
    Last address to be written:            2125199 (472:15.74, 4150MB)
   
18:26:37    #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 282
    Write in overburning mode: NO (enabled: CD)
   
18:26:37    #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2483
    Recorder: PHILIPS PBDV1640P, Media type: DVD-R
     Disc Manufacturer: MCC 02 - RG20 
     Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193
   
18:26:37    #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 448
    >>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
    =========================================
   
18:26:37    #10 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 838
    Setup items (after recorder preparation)
     0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
        2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
        original disc pos #0 + 2125200 (2125200) = #2125200/472:16.0
        relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required, no patch infos
        -> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2125200 blocks [PHILIPS  PBDV1640P]
    --------------------------------------------------------------
   
18:26:37    #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1051
    Prepare recorder [PHILIPS  PBDV1640P] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
    DAO infos:
    ==========
     MCN: ""
     TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
     Tracks 1 to 1:
       1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos             0             0    4352409600, ISRC ""
    DAO layout:
    ===========
     __Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_RecDep__________
           0 |  lead-in |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
           0 |        1 |   0 |    0x41 | 0x00
           0 |        1 |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
     2125200 | lead-out |   1 |    0x41 | 0x00
   
18:26:37    #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files started
   
18:27:31    #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4120
    Cache writing successful.
   
18:27:31    #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Caching of files completed
   
18:27:31    #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process started at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
   
18:27:31    #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2654
    Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
   
18:27:31    #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2379
    Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode
   
18:27:31    #18 Text 0 File Mmc.cpp, Line 21708
    Set BUFE: Buffer underrun protection -> ON
   
18:27:31    #19 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2534
    Start write address at LBA 0
    DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
   
18:27:31    #20 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 8862
    ---- DVD Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
    Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
     Book Type: DVD-R   (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 0.0 (0)
     Disc Size: 120 mm,      Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
     Number of Layers: 1,    Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP),  Layer Type: recordable
     Linear Density:         0,267 um/bit,  Track Density:  0,74 um/track
     Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
     End Physical Sector Number of Data Area:      0 h
     End Sector Number in Layer 0:                 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
     Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
      Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 0 h
      Start sector number of the next Border-In:     0 h
     Media Specific [16..63]:
          00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
          00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
          00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00    ................
   
18:27:47    #21 SCSI -1135 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1434
    SCSI Exec, HA 1, TA 1, LUN 0, buffer 0x03370000
    Status:     0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
    HA-Status   0x00 (0x00, OK)
    TA-Status   0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
    Sense Key:  0x03 (KEY_MEDIUM_ERROR)
    Sense Code: 0x0C
    Sense Qual: 0x00
    CDB Data:   0x2A 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x20 0x00 0x00 0x00
    Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x03 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x12
                0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0C 0x00
   
18:27:47    #22 CDR -1135 File Writer.cpp, Line 311
    Write error
   
18:27:47    #23 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 228
    all writers idle, stopping conversion
   
18:27:47    #24 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 222
    conversion idle, stopping reader
   
18:27:47    #25 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 2774
    EndDAO: Last written address was -1
   
18:27:47    #26 Phase 38 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1832
    Burn process failed at 4x (5,540 KB/s)
   

Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\NeroCD2k.sys': Ver=1.0.0.9, size=44227 bytes, created 06/04/2005 16:34:48
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 10/09/1999 12:06:00
File 'Drivers\PXHELP20.SYS': Ver=2.03.28a, size=20640 bytes, created 11/03/2005 23:28:09 (Prassi/Veritas driver for win 2K)
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.2180 (xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158), size=95360 bytes, created 04/08/2004 06:59:42 (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\CPUCooL (Power saving: CPUCooL)
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

(in reply to Zigy1024)

you have latest firmware, latest nero, great quality media... wow, sounds like problem while leadin.
did you get only one failed burn? dma enabled and but do you use an 80pin cable? before any conclusions try a different disc.

(in reply to Zigy1024)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Antonio

you have latest firmware, latest nero, great quality media... wow, sounds like problem while leadin.
did you get only one failed burn? dma enabled and but do you use an 80pin cable? before any conclusions try a different disc.

I tried to get it all right...!
It failed a good few times; definately not a one off.  DMA is enabled, but I'm really not sure what an 80pin cable even is! Just on a boggo IDE lead atm... is this a really silly newbie style mistake?!

Cheers

(in reply to Antonio)

No, I just try to figure out what might be the problem.

The 80pin IDE cable is the same with this one you have for your HD. If you take a closer look to it you'll see that there are more and thinner small cables, 80 instaed of 40. I read that recent Plextor, BenQ abd Philips drives need 80pin.

Don't forget to use a different disc.

(in reply to Zigy1024)

That could be the problem then... I'm just using my old IDE lead (about 6 years old!) - Only 40pin as far as I know.  Guess I'd better get hold of an 80pin jobbie!  Works fine for reading DVDs & writing CDs though... still sound likely?

(in reply to Antonio)

Also any ASPI layer above 4.60 is not good for XP.  You can download a file at the link below that will fix your ASPI layer to the more stable 4.60 version.  There is an included file that you must READ and follow the instructions exactally!

Download ASPI 4.60 here.

(in reply to Zigy1024)

I've got ASPI 4.60 currently... did that yesterday!

& "ASPI is properly installed and is fully operational"

(in reply to MP3Mogul)

FWIW, the Ultra ATA 66/100/133 cables are 80-wire (or 80-conductor) and not 80-pin.  There are still only 40-pins, just 2 wires per pin.

An easy way to identify the cable is:
- wire strands are smaller
- connectors typically will have one black (master), one grey (slave) and one blue (motherboard) connector.

Also make sure that your BIOS prints out that you're using DMA Modes 2, 4, 5 or 6.  These correspond to Ultra ATA 33, 66, 100, 133, respectively.

BTW, I've used ASPI 4.71.2 w/o any problems for a long time.  Also doesn't Nero use it's own ASPI layer or WinXP's SPTI?  I can see if he was using other apps to burn that might not have their own ASPI layer and depend on the system one though.

(in reply to Zigy1024)

Ok, I'd just obviously not noticed it before, but I do have an 80pin (/wire!) lead on the channel with the burner on it.  Only a 40pin one on the HDD channel though...

I'll check what the BIOS says now...

(in reply to tqhoang)

Ok, I'm an eejit!  Well I still think it's a bit silly to have a BIOS that defaults to SATA: disabled, but hey!

Still, my first DVD just burned fine; cheers guys

(in reply to Zigy1024)

HD with 40pin??? Hmmm better get another 80pin for this also. Irrelevant with your problem, just a suggestion.

(in reply to Zigy1024)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Antonio

HD with 40pin??? Hmmm better get another 80pin for this also. Irrelevant with your problem, just a suggestion.

Would sound like a good idea!  It's a kinda clever lead though, with a laptop HD connection as well as the standard IDE, so I guess I'd just need to get an adaptor for the laptop HD to use with an 80pin lead... I've got the lead in my box of bits - just never noticed the difference! lol

(in reply to Antonio)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Zigy1024

Ok, I'm an eejit!  Well I still think it's a bit silly to have a BIOS that defaults to SATA: disabled, but hey!

I take that back...  I was thinking that SATA was the same as Ultra-ATA, but obviously it's a totally different thing.  So as there's nowt plugged into the SATA sockets on my mobo, why should my DVD drive only work with SATA enabled in BIOS?! 

(in reply to Zigy1024)

If you have no SATA device installed on your PC then you can disable the SATA controller from BIOS. This way you won't see it in boot and windows.

(in reply to Zigy1024)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Antonio

If you have no SATA device installed on your PC then you can disable the SATA controller from BIOS. This way you won't see it in boot and windows.

You'd think so wouldn't you!  But my DVD drive only started working when I enabled it...

(in reply to Antonio)