1. Introduction
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Introduction:
2000
was a great year for TDK. The TDK CyClone 121032 made a huge impact among users
for its very good reading/writing performance and price. Back in November TDK
announced with a brief press release the news of the CyClone 161040 drive, which
promised to be the faster (16x) -nowadays- CDR-W drive surpassing Plextor and
Yamaha, that shipped the fastest writing drives in the past.
This
time TDK partnered with Sanyo and used their 16x solution, which has the code
name "CRD-BP1400P",
in order to become the first ever manufacturer who would ship a real 16x *CLV*
recorder. The drive supports 16x writing speed, 10x re-writing and 40x reading
speeds. If that's not enough TDK's 16x solution adds "BURN-Proof"
technology, which eliminates coasters,
and DAO-RAW(?)! Yep folks. All you can dream of is included in this package.
The real question now is how this CDR rocket performs? Lets find out! Here are
some of the specs: Writing: 1x, 2x, 4x, 8x, 12x, 16x - Re-writing: 2x, 4x, 8x,
10x - Reading: 40x (max) - DAE: up to 32x (max) - 2MB of Buffer + BURN-Proof
technology.
Supplied
Package: The package supplied was the retail European version. This included:
The drive itself, a detailed manual (in 6 languages), a quick installation guide,
one TDK 16x CD-R blank, 1 High Speed RW Blank, Audio cables, mounting screws
and a CD-R pen. The software supplied with the TDK CyClone was: Nero 5.0.3.5,
Ahead InCD 1.75 and the TDK Digital Mix Master v3.5 build 131 software.
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ATIP: 97m 24s 01f
Disc Manufacturer: Taiyo Yuden Company Ltd.
Assumed Dye type: Cyanine (Type 1)
Media type: CD-Recordable
Recording Speeds: min. unknown - max. unknown
nominal Capacity: 656.40MB (74m 43s 00f / LBA: 336075) |
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ATIP: 97m 34s 23f
Disc Manufacturer: Mitsubishi Chemicals Corp.
Assumed Dye type: Cyanine (Type 3)
Media type: CD-ReWritable
Recording Speeds: min. 4X - max. 8X
nominal Capacity: 656.40MB (74m 43s 00f / LBA: 336075) |
The front of the drive displays the High Speed Logo on the left hand side
of the front tray among with the "16/10/40" logo. The tray has a blue
colour adding a special paint in the drive. There are also 2 leds (read, write)
and the BURN-Proof logo above it. In the back you will find the usual connectors
(including the standard SPDIF digital output). Using CDR Identifier we were
able to determine the manufacturer for both the TDK 16x CDR (Taiyo Yuden) and
HS-RW 4-10x (Mitsubishi) included media.
Installation: We installed the TDK drive as a secondary master on the
IDE controller of our motherboard and powered up the PC. After booting, the
CDR-W identified itself as the "TDK CDRW161040X" and worked at "PIO
Mode 4". We unchecked the Auto Insert notification, checked DMA and rebooted.
The drive was marked as being manufactured in December 2000 with firmware revision
v5.29.
As
we were informed there will soon be a newer firmware revision, which will fix
both reading/writing DAO-RAW problems.. Most of our tests were carried out using
the newest Nero v5.0.3.8. For the Packet Writing tests, we used Prassi abCD
v1.5.169 and not the supplied Ahead InCD since we faced several problems under
WinMe OS.
Don't
forget also to install the TDK Digital Mixmaster v3.0 software and head over
to the TDK's
upgrade page and grab a few additional skins. TDK Digital MixMaster is nice
software, which will give you something to play with for many hours.
The player will remind you of WinAMP since it offers similar features such
as play lists, skins, equalizer, connection to CDDB databases, plug-ins for
both visual and audio. The TDK Digital Mixmaster is actually based on the forthcoming
Nero Media Player. Be warned it does limit all recording to all but the TDK
CyClone drive (hence the same TDK ;).
Test Machine
WinMe OS
Soyo 7VCA
Celeron II 566 over clocked to 850 MHz
128MB SDRAM PC 133
VIA 4 in1 4.27
VIA IDE BUS 3.01.1 (miniport version)
WD 18GB UDMA 66
Quantum Fireball EX 6.4GB
SCSI: DAWI 2975 - PCI (ULTRA)
ATI AIW 128
Plextor UltraPlex 40max firmware v1.12
Sanyo CRD-BP4 firmware v4.28
Sanyo CRD-BP1400P firmware v5.29
Yamaha CRW2100E firmware v1.0h
TDK CyClone 161040 firmware v5.29
2. Data Tests
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Data Tests
Test Method:
- SCSI Mechanic v3.0: This was used to compare the TDK's I/O performance
against other various CDR-W drives (see charts). We used a pressed CD containing
PlexTools v1.06 for all of the tests.
- CD Speed 99 v0.75 was also used to check the drive performance with
pressed CDs. For that test we used PlexTools v1.06 original CD.
- SCSI Mechanic v3.0 results:
As you can see from the graph above, the TDK drive performed very well in
most tests. Its performance was the same as with CRD-BP1400P in both Sequential
and Same Sector I/O tests. This is natural since both models are based in the
same drive. The slight differences can be explained as the differences from
the same production model known issue. The Yamaha still seems to give out the
best Random I/O mark but looses the title of the fastest recorder around -in
the reading part, since both BP1400P and TDK CyClone climbed up to 4460 kb/s!
Very good performance from the TDK CyClone 161040.
- CD Speed 99 v0.80 results:
Using CD Speed 0.80, we can see that the TDK and the CRD-BP1400P give out
the same performance and still hold the first place among Yamaha 2100E and BP4
models.
The TDK CyClone drive seems improved over the Sanyo BP1400P/BP4 drives since
in all our tests it gave the lower seek time mark. The Yamaha 2100E has the
higher seek time and as it seems Sanyo based drives really smash the competition!
Let's wait however to see how the coming PleXWriter PX-W1610A would perform
before rushing announcing the title of the faster CDR-W drive around.
3. RW reading tests
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RW reading tests
For the RW tests we used Ricoh HS RW media written at 10x speed. As you will
notice the Sanyo/TDK drives goes maximum at 32x and not at 40x as the CRW2100E
does. The Yamaha 2100E drive keeps the first place here:
CloneCD Tests
- Procedure:
We used CloneCD (v2.8.4.2) and 3 original CDs (Rally Masters, Euro2000 and
Vrally 2 Expert) in order to test the reading time for TDK CyClone 161040. We
also tested the reading performance with backups of the original CDs since the
reading speed varies among original and backup media. For comparison reasons
we added the results from Sanyo CRD-BP4/1400P and Yamaha CRW2100E.
- Results:
a) SafeDisc Results: Euro 2000 (Total: 257982 sectors - 10141 bad sectors)
- Reading Speed: Max
The TDK CyClone 161040 seems not performing good when the time comes to read
SafeDisc protected CDs. The Yamaha 2100E is simply un-beatable in this test.
Note that the drive supports only hardware error skip mode.
b) LaserLock Results: Rally Masters (Total: 321528 sectors
- 6317 bad sectors) - Reading Speed: Max
The TDK CyClone 161040 drive also gave back the lower "LaserLock CloneMark"
. This is really strange since the other Sanyo BP4/1400P drives performed very
good with the LaserLock protected CDs...
c) SecuROM Results:
The TDK CyClone 161040 doesn't support reading subchannel data from data
tracks. :(
Verdict of CloneCD Tests:
The TDK CyClone 161040 didn't performed the way we expected in the CloneCD
reading tests. The drive in most test results had the higher reading time, even
compared to the Sanyo BP4/1400P models. The Yamaha 2100E simply rules the CloneCD
reading tests. Also the drive doesn't support reading subChannel data from data
tracks so you can forget SecuROM backups.
4. DAE Tests
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DAE Tests
Test Method:
We used CD DAE 99 v0.2 with AudioCDs in order to check DAE performance of
the TDK CyClone 161040 and we compared it with the Sanyo CRD-BP4/1400P and Yamaha
CRW2100E models. Use made a full CD Rip starting from the first to the last
track of the CD. The Average DAE reported speed along with the CPU Usage is
displayed in the test graphs.
- Pressed AudioCD results:
All Sanyo based drives have similar DAE performance (around 23.4x average)
but considerably less than what the Yamaha CRW2100E is able to do (40x max):
- Princo 74min AudioCD:
The Sanyo based drives have the same performance with CDR media as they
do with pressed CDs:
- Advanced DAE Quality:
As you can see all drives got 100 (perfect) score in the Advanced DAE Quality
tests. The Yamaha 2100E still holds the first place among the Sanyo based drives.
Sanyo has to look for the sync errors which the test revealed and improve the
already, almost perfect, DAE performance!
Noticed anything interesting here? CD Speed test show that the drive can read
SubChannel data (from audio tracks probably).
5. CDR Tests
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CDR Tests
The TDK CyClone 161040 is the first drive that supports 16x CLV writing. You
might be confused since Yamaha was the first company ever presented 16x writer,
which however used 16x partial CAV. The main difference between 2 technologies
is that 16x CLV should be faster around 15sec (in full 74min CD). The drive
didn't perform good with CD Speed v0.8 test so we were unable to confirm the
16x writing speed. This shouldn't worry you since the drive does support 16x
writing speed:
- Procedure:
We tested TDK CyClone 161040 with Nero v5.0.3.8, CloneCD v2.8.4.2 software
and with the following media: Princo 74min (16x) & 80min (16x), Platinum
80min (12x), Verbatim 74min (16x) & 80min (16x), Mitsui 74min (16x), Ricoh/Plextor/Verbatim
74min HS RW. The media manufacturers have acted fast to the 16x writing challenge
and you will find easily 16x certified CDR media to use. In most cases the 12x
certified CDR media will do just fine for 16x writing.
- CD-R Tests:
We created "DataCD" job with data slight higher than 74mins (74:03:65).
We burned the same job with all 4 CDR-W drives:
As you see all 4 tested drives (BP4, BP1400P, CRW2100E) gave the same exact
burning time (404sec). The TDK 161040 makes 2 extra seconds to finish the task,
which shouldn't be considered as a drawback. The CPU Usage is little higher
than what we got from the Sanyo drives.
Let's now see the 16x writing speed performance. The Sanyo and TDK drives
need about 8-10 secs in order to calibrate the media..The time (including lead
and lead-out) is 312secs (5:12min), which is the fastest you can get nowadays
from a 16x CLV recorder. The Yamaha 2100E stays back 12secs since it uses 16x
CAV writing technology.
- 80min CDs:
As previous we created a DataCD (80:02:16) and used the same media for all
burns:
The Sanyo and TDK drives gave the lower burning time in this test. The Yamaha
2100E needs 4 more seconds to finish the task, which however is not a big difference
in terms of time.
At the 16x recording speed again the Sanyo and TDK drives deliver the lowest
recording time (334sec). The Yamaha 2100E lags behind, as it is 19sec slower.
The time difference between 16x CLV and 16x CAV writing speeds has increased
in this test.
- Overburning Tests:
We used 90 and 99min CDs (from Medea
International and Copy4All)
and using Nero we were able to write up to 92minutes. Both drives stop writing
at 93mins so you will not be able to use fully the increased capacity of 99min
CDs. The 90min media can be written entirely:
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90min CD
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99min CD
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Sanyo BP4
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92:08:51
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93:44:25
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Sanyo BP1400P
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92:08:21
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93:46:32
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TDK 161040
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92:08:55
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93:45:02
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- AudioCD Tests:
We created several Audio CDs (including CD-Text). All of the CDs we created
were tested with the Plextor PX-40TS and Plextor's CD-Text compatible CD player.
From what we saw, everything worked just fine.
- CloneCD Tests:
The
TDK CyClone 161040 is supposed to support DAO-RAW according to CloneCD v2.8.4.2.
However, real life tests showed the exact opposite. The DAO-RAW is NOT working
since the drive either produces un-readable CDs or CDs with only Audio tracks!
This happens in both DAO/SAO RAW modes! The problem was also confirmed using
PadusDJ. Add the known problem reading SubChannel data from Data tracks and
you have the complete idea. Of course since the DAO-RAW writing is not working
we weren't able to check if the drive can make safe backups of SafeDisc 2 protected
CDs...
Both problems have been reported to TDK/Sanyo and were admitted as true. We
hope that they will be fixed soon, so that users can enjoy CloneCD :). The drive
also supports SAO/DAO-RAW among with Simulation, which Plextor drives don't
support. CloneCD doesn't display the 16x write speed option but if you set the
write speed at "MAX" it will do the job ;)
- Buffer Underrun tests:
The TDK CyClone 161040 includes the improved BURN-Proof technology,(gap
lenght 2micro meters), which eliminates buffer under-runs and of course coasters.
The drives worked fine even under heavy pressure from our side (100% CPU Usage).
The BURN-Proof technology will save you from any possible buffer under-run you
might ever face!
Verdict of CDR Results:
The TDK CyClone 161040 is based on Sanyo Bp1400P. The general impression
that the drive left us, is that it behaves normally in most cases when using
CDR media and try to write at the maximum 16x. There might be some problems
if the CDR media is not of good quality. The recording time is the same as with
the Sanyo drives, and beats Yamaha's proposal in most CDR tests. Keep in mind
that you will need a very fast CD-Rom/DVD-Rom for be able to keep writing 16x
on the fly. If your source drive is not fast the recording time will be increased
dramatically... Overburning works great but only up to 93 mins so you will not
be able to use 99min (or 120min) CDs.
The BURN-Proof technology is there and gives you the freedom eventually to
work in your PC without any fear of Buffer Underruns. CloneCD users will freak
out when they find out that the DAO-RAW of the drive is not working! Let's hope
this nasty bug will be fixed soon...
6. RW Writing Tests
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RW Writing Tests
We used Nero 5.0.3.8 for writing CDs in maximum RW writing speed for all the
tested drives. All other drives write at 10x RW writing speed except Yamaha
CRW2100E since it supports only 8x re-write:
The Sanyo and TDK drives gave the same time (around 491 secs) in the HS RW
writing test. The Yamaha 2100E gave back the biggest time since the drive supports
only 8x writing speed. The erase times are more the same for all Sanyo/TDK drives.
However we noticed several problems when tried to erase HS RW media. The drive
locked at the end and after reboot the media wasn't really erased. This happened
several times and leads us in the assumption that there might be another bug
in this area.
- Packet Writing
Tests:
We used Prassi abCD 1.5.269 for all Packet Writing tests - avoid
installing latest PX Engine update since after that Prassi abCD refused to recognize
the TDK CyClone 161040. We used Plextor HS-RW media and we formatted it. The
formatting of the media takes around 7min. After formatting, we tested all four
drives for their packet writing performance.
The formatted disc had 530mbs of free space. We copied a 403 MB file (403.147
kbs) from a Hard Disk (on the same PC as the writers) to the formatted RW media-using
explorer (we dragged and dropped) we completed the test twice to eliminate possible
time measurement faults and user error:
The results show that the TDK CyClone 161040 doesn't perform very well in
the packet writing tests. The Yamaha 2100E seems to perform better, especially
in the writing mode. The TDK CyClone 161040 performs very well at the reading
part with 6.45x.
7. Conclusion
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Conclusion
Positive
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Negative
(-) :
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- First retail *real* 16x writer on the market
- Improved BURN-Proof technology
- Best DATA reading performance around
- Very good DAE ripping performance
- Supports HS RW standard (10x re-write)
- Supports DAO-RAW (theoretically)
- Supports CD-Text
- Supports Overburning (write up to 93mins)
- Low noise when reading at max speed
- Full retail package
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DAO-RAW writing is NOT working!!!!
- Not so good CloneCD performance
- Doesn't support reading of SubChannel data
- Packet writing/reading performance could be better...
- Weird HS-RW erase problems!
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The TDK CyClone 161040 is among with the Sanyo CRD-BP4/1400P the first *real*
16x writers on the market. The drive's reading performance is the best you can
get around and gives Yamaha something to consider improving. The DAE is also
very good (32x max) but needs some fine-tuning to correct the Sync errors.
There are however some problems which will trouble users: a) DAO-RAW writing
simply doesn't work , b) the drive doesn't read SubChannel data from data tracks
and c) the drive seems to behave very strange when you try to erase HS-RW media.
Those issues must be solved soon in order to let TDK CyClone 161040 users fully
enjoy the drive. The drive's price would be around 225 Euro, which seems to
be much lower than the announced for the PleXWriter PX-W1610A (around 280 Euro)
that will ship later than the TDK CyClone 161040. The retail package is very
good (contains Nero) and will give you all you need for a quick start.
We cannot still announce the winner of the 16x-writing race since one strong
competitor has not yet arrived! The announced PleXWriter PX-W1610A will have
a hard time against both Yamaha 2100x and TDK/Sanyo BP1400P drives. The final
battle hasn't yet started... Stay tuned!