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Burn Faster than 16X - 1/20/2003 12:25:50 AM   
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Heya all, I can't figure this out, WinXP Pro with SP1 appllied, Nero 5.5.10.0, PIII 500 and a Diamond Data 40x32x10 burner, no matter what media I use or anything else that I try, I can't burn any faster than 16X. Any ideas?
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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/20/2003 5:36:31 PM   
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Cause DMA is NOT activated


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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/23/2003 9:21:38 AM   
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Nope, DMA is enabled and the burner is a master on the secondary IDE channel with no other drives.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/23/2003 1:32:05 PM   
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What is the media rated for?


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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/24/2003 7:12:11 AM   
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I've tried SKC rated at 40X, and Imation rated at 48X and a few other brands rated at 40X.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/24/2003 7:32:30 AM   
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Run NERO InfoTool with no disc in the drive, see what it comes up as the max burn speed, then try burning with Nero again....


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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/24/2003 11:42:35 AM   
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Nope, done that, here is a copy, says it can support 32X alright.

Drive : ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40
Type : CD-RW Recorder
Firmware Version : B.MW
Buffer Size : 2 MB
Date : ?
Serial Number : ?
Drive Letter : E:\
Location : 1:0
Mechanism : Tray
Read Speed : 40, 32, 24, 16, 12, 10, 8, 4, 2 X
Write Speed : 32, 24, 16, 12, 8, 4 X

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/25/2003 12:35:56 AM   
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Just to confirm, you are burning files that are the harddrive, right? And not copying files directly from another CD.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/25/2003 12:57:09 AM   
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Good point.... You are not doing on the fly copies are you?


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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 1/25/2003 3:16:13 AM   
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Yup, only burning files from my HDD, HDD is a 7200rpm Seagate, Nero speedtest averages out at around 50X capable transfer rate, or there abouts. It's got me stumped. for those who know how to read it, here is the log file from Nero.


Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -
ahead WinASPI: File 'C:\Program Files\ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.50, size=131072 bytes, created 17/09/2002 8:21:31 PM
Nero Version: 5.5.10.0
Recorder: <ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40> Version: B.MW - HA 1 TA 0 - 5.5.10.0
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
CD-ROM: < ATAPI CDROM.> Version: 10AH - HA 0 TA 1 - 5.5.10.0
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : ST340016A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : ATAPI CDROM. atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
=======================

AutoRun : 1
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 61865984 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 511MB (523764kB)
Free physical memory: 267MB (274248kB)
Memory in use : 47 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Enabled (1)
Wizard: Off

25.1.2003
CD-ROM (ISO)
2:22:32 PM #1 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 7328
Iso document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : TRUE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : FALSE
Finalize CD : FALSE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
ISO Level : 1 (Max. of 11 = 8 + 3 char)
Character set : ISO 9660
Joliet : TRUE
Allow pathdepth more than 8 directories : TRUE
Allow more than 255 characters in path : TRUE
Write ISO9660 ;1 file extensions : TRUE

2:22:32 PM #2 Phase 111 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1649
DVD-Video files sorted

2:22:32 PM #3 Phase 87 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1649
Seamless Link activated

2:22:32 PM #4 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 115
Reader running

2:22:32 PM #5 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 123
Writer ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40 running

2:22:32 PM #6 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 4519
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)

2:22:34 PM #7 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3790
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using CD-R/RW media

2:22:34 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 659
Setup items (original item values)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 151510 (151510) = #151510/33:40.10
relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
--------------------------------------------------------------

2:22:49 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 202
Last possible write address on media: 359845 (79:59.70)
Last address to be written: 151509 (33:42.09)

2:22:49 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 207
Write in overburning mode: FALSE

2:22:49 PM #11 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 1419
Recorder: ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40;
CDR code: 00 97 26 66; OSJ entry from: CMC Magnetics Corporation
ATIP Data:
Special Info [hex] 1: D0 00 90, 2: 61 1A 42 (LI 97:26.66), 3: 4F 3B 47 (LO 79:59.71)
Additional Info [hex] 1: 00 00 80 (invalid), 2: 00 80 00 (invalid), 3: 00 80 80 (invalid)

2:22:49 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 811
Prepare recorder ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40 for write in cue-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN:
TOCTYPE: 0x0 Session Closed, CD not fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x0, ISRC "", FilePos 0 307200 310599680

2:22:49 PM #13 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 659
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original CD pos #0 + 151510 (151510) = #151510/33:40.10
relocatable, CD pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 151510 blocks [ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40 ]
--------------------------------------------------------------

2:22:49 PM #14 Phase 28 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1649
Speed measurement started

2:22:49 PM #15 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 1952
Verifying CD position of item 0 (relocatable, CD pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

2:23:39 PM #16 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 115
<ATAPI CD-RW 32X10X40 > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 151510 (24FD6h), lenght 0 blocks

2:23:39 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 219
all writers idle, stopping conversion

2:23:40 PM #18 Phase 29 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1619
Speed measurement completed: 50.1x (7,515 KB/s)

2:23:40 PM #19 Text 0 File Scsicmd.cpp, Line 406
SCSI not using temporary buffers
20 out of 20 temporary buffers allocated


Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\atapi.sys': Ver=5.1.2600.1106 (xpsp1.020828-1920), size=86912 bytes, created 29/08/2002 2:27:50 AM (Adapter driver for rec)

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)


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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 2/5/2003 1:33:28 AM   
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I have similar experience m8 but for mp3 to audio (hd and on the fly). I have a PIII 450MHz 128mb RAM and when I do a 'determine max speed' test run on nero (5.5.10)the max speed is approx 20x which is rounded down to 16x.

I guess this is because the old pc can't process the data fast enough.

If I copy data from the hd to the cdrw it flies at full speed.

I have a jlms 166s dvdrom and a liteon 48125s.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 3/5/2003 4:13:21 AM   
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I have a same problem when using spead measurement as well. My computer is pretty fast XP 1700+ with DDR333 and the HD is 7200rpm ATA133. My CDRW is 48x and the media is rated up to 40x. I noticed that I still can burn the CD successfully at 32x without any error when I turn off speed measurement. I still do NOT feel safe by turning it off though.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 3/5/2003 4:50:40 AM   
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This is a problem with Nero, and not the computer. My solution was to leave Nero multiple letters (over time) regarding it, and after having been ignored for about a month (well, they did attempt ONE reply, but it was seriously lame, and only worsened the problem) I switched to only burning with Alcohol 120%, and using WinISO to make the images.

It a round about way of doing it, but at least I can feel secure in my burning!


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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 3/5/2003 11:35:33 AM   
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yeah, maybe in the future i will switch also. nero's getting out of control with its popularity. seems there's always new buggy versions ... extra added features (aka bloat).

let's get back to just serious CD burning ... none of this multimedia conversion software ... or make a stripped down version for experts.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 3/5/2003 3:21:24 PM   
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Well, I tried out Alcohol 120% trial version and it is pretty fast. I can burn CD upto 40x as I expected.

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RE: Burn Faster than 16X - 3/5/2003 11:18:55 PM   
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I find with Alcohol 120% I can burn CD-Rs MUCH faster then with Nero! my current best is 2:21 for a 79:31 CD-R image!! that's rivaling 52x speeds, using only an overclocked Liteon 40x (now at 48x)


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