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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/27/2004 6:43:01 PM   
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As have been discuseed at the main NEC firmware overview thread, the 2.16 is the first firmware, while the 2.x7 (2.07/2.17/) supposed to arrive this week, if all goes ok, when something comes, I will let you know people!

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 5:02:31 AM   
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I can tell you how it is said in Greek: Τα του Καίσαρος τω Καίσαρι.

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 5:13:50 AM   
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What firmware version did you use for the Pioneer kogos? I didn't see it noted.

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 10:31:08 AM   
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I can tell you how it is said in Greek: Τα του Καίσαρος τω Καίσαρι.


OK, now it's more clear for minos

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 10:32:21 AM   
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What firmware version did you use for the Pioneer kogos? I didn't see it noted.


The test shows f/w 1.10.

Now actual Pioneer f/w is 1.14, but...

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 3:19:27 PM   
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just a question, I am trying to rip a dvd and it goes at 2-4x :S How could I go higher?

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 3:46:32 PM   
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Earlier post by kogos:
"Then i recorded both with NEC 3500A... The discs retained their booktype setting... the first one was DVD-ROM and the second one was DVD+RW... This means that the booktype setting for +RW discs is automatically set to +RW or -ROM, BUT IT IS LEFT UNTOUCHED!!! "

what does this mean? how can it be automatically set and yet still be untouched? that doesn't make sense... either it's set or it isn't, or am i missing something here?

Also, the review states on page 27 that "DVD+RW media is written as DVD-ROM by default, while DVD+R media is written as DVD+R", even though contacting NEC revealed that "The ND-1300A, ND-25x0A and ND-3500A marks DvD+R, DvD+RW, DvD-R and DvD-RW as given, without any booktype changes applied"..

I'm getting confused here but i'm of course still a noob to all this..

I've got a couple of questions also:
A. Changing the book type for DVD+R SL as shown on page 28 of the review, does that change the book type for DVD+RW also?
B. How does this book type stuff work? I tried changing the SL book type to DVD-ROM using winbtype (using fw 2.F8) and that seems to change the book type setting of the drive, but when is the book type of a disc actually changed? when it is burned? or can the book type of a disc be set without actually burning any content to the disc? (after changing book type to DVD-ROM i tried burning a DVD+RW using Nero, but it was still reported as a DVD+RW media afterwards)..

hope all of this makes sense..

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 3:58:20 PM   
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The Pioneer DVR-A08XLA tested with 1.10 firmware, one day after Pioneer released 1.14, we will try to make a new roundup with updated firmware, ASAP

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 9/29/2004 3:59:54 PM   
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just a question, I am trying to rip a dvd and it goes at 2-4x :S How could I go higher?


You can use a "hacked" firmware over the The Dangerous Brothers

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/2/2004 12:18:19 PM   
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Which one should I use?

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/3/2004 3:03:14 PM   
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2.27 seems very nice for burner, even doesn't support Ritek DL

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/8/2004 3:12:20 AM   
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I just bought some Verbatim 32x CD-RW. Can these be used in Nec 3500 ?

Another shop is selling 24x CD-RW and 32x CD-RW, and in the description for the 24x it mentions it can only be used in recorders that support 24x. The description of the 32x mentions it can only be used in recorders that support 32x.

Can I burn the 32x at 24x on Nec 3500, or is it such a special CD-RW, that it can only be burned at 32x ?

Thanks.

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/8/2004 4:11:30 AM   
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Not so sure if 3500A supports 32X US-RW...

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/8/2004 4:58:09 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: hooverphonique

I've got a couple of questions also:
A. Changing the book type for DVD+R SL as shown on page 28 of the review, does that change the book type for DVD+RW also?
B. How does this book type stuff work? I tried changing the SL book type to DVD-ROM using winbtype (using fw 2.F8) and that seems to change the book type setting of the drive, but when is the book type of a disc actually changed? when it is burned? or can the book type of a disc be set without actually burning any content to the disc? (after changing book type to DVD-ROM i tried burning a DVD+RW using Nero, but it was still reported as a DVD+RW media afterwards)..

hope all of this makes sense..


A. unfortunately, DVD+RW booktype cannot be changed... It is automaticaly managed by the drive...

B. the book type of a disc can be set without actually burning any content to the disc with LiteON based drives... you cannot do this with NEC based drives, since the booktype is changed during burning process... and of course with +R and +R9 media only...

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/8/2004 12:21:18 PM   
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Not so sure if 3500A supports 32X US-RW...


No, I think you are right, so I cancelled my order.

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RE: NEC 3500A Review added - 10/9/2004 8:50:41 PM   
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Hello there!

Boy am I glad I've discovered this place tonight. I've spent the last 5 hours reading stuff here!!

What brought me here was another thread that talked about the differences between LG GSA-4160BA, 16X Dual Layer DVD-Writer, and this one that you have so excellently reviewed: NEC 3500, 16X Dual Layer DVD-Writer.

In that thread, the question was anxiously posed: Which one to get? Which of these would you go for?

I don't think that answer was ever realised because folks were waiting for this review to come out. I am now in an enviable position to be offered a choice in a new, super high-end machine I have ordered. Price will stay the same for either choice of DVD writer.

It might make a difference if I say the server will also have another DVD drive: 16 x Sony DVD Player in one of its bays.

I'm leaning toward the NEC 3500, because I noted that one of your senior members said there is more "un-official" support for NEC drives. But I am told the LG is a very good drive also.

Can any of you experts help me to reach this difficult decision?

As I'm a filmmaker, the system is a high-end video editing suite and I will be using the drive primarily to author my films onto DVD using Scenarist. I am also quite used to Nero as burning software, but I'm open to anything else suggested.

My main concerns are (1) Readability, as the DVDs will be sent to festivals, promoters and the like. They have to be reliable for foreign DVD players of which I have no control! (2) Longevity. The unit will take a bit of hammering at times as I will need to make short runs on it.

Best regards, and thank-you for this forum!

Chris.


< Message edited by apollo11 -- 10/9/2004 8:57:08 PM >

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