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NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from MadDog! - 9/23/2004 5:54:56 AM   
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It's finally out!
This firmware was released by MadDog who sell rebadged NEC DVD burners.
It allows bitsetting for Single-Layer and Dual-Layer DVD+R(W) media!

Write strategies NEC 2510 f/w 2.16 original vs Mad Dog 2.F7:

CD-R:   1.15  – 1.15
CD-RW:  1.14  – 1.14
DVD-R:  1.34f – 1.36f
DVD-RW: 1.27f – 1.28f
DVD+R:  1.34f – 1.35f
DVD+RW: 1.25f – 1.25f
DVD+R9: 1.15f – 1.15f


The Dangerous Brothers already have patched RPC1 and Riplock versions.
Download it here:
http://tdb.rpc1.org/#ND2510A


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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/23/2004 6:03:09 AM   
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Fantastic.

Good news for NEC 2500's owners.

Thanks, Dethroner.

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/23/2004 3:53:21 PM   
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Thanks for the news, for sure NEC 2510A users can use it if they want Bitsetting for DVD+R/+RW media

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/23/2004 4:51:21 PM   
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Just to let you know that the new Nero 6.3.1.25 bitsetting feature seems now to work with the NEC...
I've seen some DVD+R burning with "automatic" bitsetting to DVD-ROM (default behavior now of Nero).

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/24/2004 5:03:14 AM   
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I have tested so far with DVD+RW only, Philips 4x media.
Book type remains DVD+RW no matter that I have permanently set it to DVD-ROM using WinBType.
(Sorry, I can't post complete media code and other info right now since I am away from my NEC and stuff right now).

I have tried multiple times burning different data types (data, video, ISO) with different software, it remains DVD+RW.

I am using permanent DVD-ROM setting for all types of DVD+ media. Did anybody else experience similar problem?

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RE: NEC ND-2510A Ridata DL media? - 9/26/2004 5:51:03 PM   
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Is there any firmware that will let this burner write to the Ridata DL media?

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RE: NEC ND-2510A Ridata DL media? - 9/27/2004 6:01:08 AM   
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Try Herrie's patched version of NEC 2.16 firmware. Herrie has added Ritek DL support. Unfortunately, Herrie's site is down at the moment, but the file seems to be there, at least, the link worked for me.

As for DVD+RW bitsetting, it seems to work with brand new disks recorded for the first time.
At least, it finally worked for me after I've bought new TDK DVD+RW. It has the same media code that Philips I've tried before, but it worked.

Verbatim DVD+RW, 1-4x, used:
                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    MKM     A02
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Capacity                                            4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type                                                          DVD+RW
Media Type                                                         DVD+RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                    4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  2.4x   3324KBps
BG Format Status                                                Suspended
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              23053Fh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1


Philips DVD+RW, 1-4x, used:
                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    PHILIPS 041
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Capacity                                            4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type                                                          DVD+RW
Media Type                                                         DVD+RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                    4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  4.0x   5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor                           CLV  2.4x   3324KBps
BG Format Status                                                Suspended
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              23053Fh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1


TDK DVD+RW, 1-4x, brand new:
                            Media Information                            
Region information                                    N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID                                    PHILIPS 041
Media Product Revision Number                                         00h
Format Capacity                                            4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type                                                         DVD-ROM
Media Type                                                         DVD+RW
Manufacturer Rated Speed                                    4.0x 5540KBps
BG Format Status                                                Suspended
Data area starting sector                                          30000h
Data area end sector                                              23053Fh
Linear Density                                                0.267um/bit
Track Density                                                0.74um/track
Number of Layers                                                        1

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RE: NEC ND-2510A Ridata DL media? - 9/27/2004 6:31:32 AM   
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To support Ritek DL you can use TDK v2.C7 or newer 2.08

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RE: NEC ND-2510A Ridata DL media? - 9/27/2004 4:53:54 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: emperor

To support Ritek DL you can use TDK v2.C7 or newer 2.08


We are talking about NEC 2510, not 3500...

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/27/2004 4:55:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Dethroner

I have tested so far with DVD+RW only, Philips 4x media.
Book type remains DVD+RW no matter that I have permanently set it to DVD-ROM using WinBType.
(Sorry, I can't post complete media code and other info right now since I am away from my NEC and stuff right now).

I have tried multiple times burning different data types (data, video, ISO) with different software, it remains DVD+RW.

I am using permanent DVD-ROM setting for all types of DVD+ media. Did anybody else experience similar problem?


You must use complete format to change booktype on a DVD+RW.
Works perfectly with old HP firmware for NEC 25x0.

Do not use fast but total erasure/fomatting and the booktype will be DVD-ROM !

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RE: NEC ND-2510A Ridata DL media? - 9/27/2004 6:37:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ItalianJob
quote:

ORIGINAL: emperor
To support Ritek DL you can use TDK v2.C7 or newer 2.08

We are talking about NEC 2510, not 3500...


Oops!!!

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/29/2004 11:04:21 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ItalianJob

You must use complete format to change booktype on a DVD+RW.
Works perfectly with old HP firmware for NEC 25x0.

Do not use fast but total erasure/fomatting and the booktype will be DVD-ROM !


I have tried slow format / total erasure with different software including DVDInfoPro format option (slow with restart), nothing worked on previously recorded disks.

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/29/2004 11:25:19 AM   
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Strange. Do the DVD+RW slow format (it's not a DVD-RW ? ) gives a blank disc, ready to burn, but with DVD+RW booktype ?
Or were there errors during the formating process ?

Did you set DVD-ROM booktype before the slow format on a DVD+RW ?

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/29/2004 11:39:17 PM   
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I tried Herrie's patched version of NEC 2.16 firmware which flashed just fine, and let me burn a DL DVD on my Ritek DL disk, but it would not read in my Toshiba stand alone DVD player. The same player has read my Verbatim DL disks just fine.
Any clues?

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/30/2004 1:56:56 AM   
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Interesting...Maybe the firmware cannot burn properly Ritek DL media?

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RE: NEC ND-2510A SL & DL bitsetting Firmware 2.F7 from ... - 9/30/2004 6:56:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: empty

I tried Herrie's patched version of NEC 2.16 firmware which flashed just fine, and let me burn a DL DVD on my Ritek DL disk, but it would not read in my Toshiba stand alone DVD player. The same player has read my Verbatim DL disks just fine.
Any clues?


Did you use DVD-ROM bitsetting for both DL ?

Can you post a Nero CD-DVD Speed test for the Ritek DL ?

Thanks.

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