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Doom III CD backup guide - 8/15/2004 2:19:28 AM   
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Let me know if this helps out or if it doesn't work for you so I can go over it and try to make it as efficient as possible.

For this I am using a plain old Mitsumi FX240S CD-ROM, DVD+RW/R+ Combo drive, 3 TDK 700mb data cd's and Alcohol 120% trial Version 1.9.2

This guide is broken down into 2 basic sections, the CD dumping process & the CD burning process


--------Section 1--------
Dumping the ISO image to your hard drive

Using the Mitsumi FX240S CD-ROM

Open Alcohol 120% (if you don't have Alcohol 120% download it Here)

1. On the left main menu, select Image Making Wizard

2. Set the CD/DVD Device to the source disk (Read speed not to exceed 4x)

3. (Skip reading errors) & (Fast skip error blocks) both checked here, the other three check boxes are unchecked, click next

4. I recommend creating a folder on your desktop named Doomcd then setting the image's location to this folder for easy
access.

5. Set the Image Format to Standard ISO and click start.


Alcohol should begin "dumping" the CD to an ISO to the Doomcd folder on your desktop.

Note that if you see the "Read data examination error" & "Disc read error" that this is OK, the blocks from about 300 to 740
are the copy protection being read by the cd & should continue about 7-15 minutes later depending on your system.

Let the dump process finish uninterrupted.


--------Section 2--------
Burning the ISO image to cd

Using the DVD+RW/R+ Combo drive

1. Back to the main menu, select Image Burning Wizard

2. if your Doom III ISO is already listed in the text box near the top all you have to do is hit next (If you want to keep
the ISO on your hard drive then uncheck the "Delete image file after recording" box), otherwise click browse and point Alcohol
120% to your Doom III ISO file


3. if you receive a popup window asking if you want to burn to DVD media click no. We are only working with CD not DVD here.
If you did not receive this popup then proceed to step 4

4. Prepare your CD/DVD Recorder window should be set up as the following starting from top to bottom.

*CD/DVD Recorder (Your CR-RW drive that has a blank CD-R inside it waiting.

*Write speed (4x)

*Using Multiple CD/DVD Recorders should be shadowed out and unchecked

Write options--------

*Write Method (RAW DAO) DAO = Disk At Once

* Write checkbox checked, Simulation checkbox unchecked

*Numbers of copies (1)

*UNCHECK (Enable Buffer Underrun Technology)

*UNCHECK (Don't close the last session of current disc)

*UNCHECK (Rectify Sub-Channel Data)

*Burn "RMPS" to recordable media should be UNCHECKED and shadowed out

*Datatype: (SafeDisc 2/3)

Click Start

The first Doom III cd should be underway, sit tight and let it copy, this time you shouldn't witness any errors during the
burning process and it should be burning at a low speed (i.e 1x,2x,4x)

Once the first CD is finished you have to do the same instructions for disc 2 & disc 3. But this time all the settings should
already be set for you, the settings being what we just went over should still be in tack so it will only be. Insert Doom III
#2 cd, click Image making wizard, same settings as disc 1, dump the contents to an ISO, burn the second ISO to another blank
disc, disc 3 is the exact same as the rest. Once this is finished you should have dumped and burnt Doom3_1.iso, Doom3_2.iso &
Doom3_3.iso successfully. The only error messages that should have arrived are the read errors when you first dump Doom III
disc 1 to your Doomcd folder everything else should be smooth.


I do not guarantee this to work for everybody, even though it worked for me on the very first try without a single coaster or
any cracks to patch the ISO's, its a simple burning process and if it doesn't work then you probably did something wrong during
the process. I am not here to be your CD tech. I merely believe that knowledge is meant to be free and I was requested to
share this knowledge. I do not take responsibilities if you break something attempting this backup procedure.


But with all that said I hope this helps the folks out there who enjoy knowing that their assets are safe from harm. I am not
a hacker nor cracker I am only me and during my stay here in the forums I hope to grow my understanding of how things work
and meet friendly people doing so.


< Message edited by Guardian -- 8/16/2004 10:21:51 PM >


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/15/2004 3:49:37 AM   
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    Thanx Guardian I can see that you really have spent some time on your Guide and it looks Superb and also I know this will be of a great help to some of our Members Thanx again !!!


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/16/2004 5:24:10 AM   
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    I think this posting should be copy-edited and added (with the proper reference) to the Faq section of our forum.


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/16/2004 4:33:33 PM   
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    No problem guys.. I like to help out whenever I can.

    If you have problems with the guide let me know ok? :)


    < Message edited by Guardian -- 8/16/2004 4:34:03 PM >


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/19/2004 4:53:23 PM   
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    Guardian,

    Followed your procedure and it worked flawlessly, it took about 25 minutes to get the image and several more to burn. Popped the CD in and it worked great.




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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/19/2004 7:11:43 PM   
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    Awesome, so far thats 2 good responses and 0 bad responses.

    This subject is getting alot of attention I see, 400+ viewers. Hope it helps everyone else as easily as it did the others.


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/19/2004 7:35:22 PM   
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    Yeah 524 people have viewed your Thread and only one member has said thanks !!!
    So come on people it dosen't hurt to say thank you for Guardian's work does it !!!
    So let us know if you try it weither it worked for you or if it didn't work let us know and I am sure you will get help !!!


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/19/2004 7:37:57 PM   
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    Hi JeffH5 and Welcome to Our Forum !!!
    Thanx for your comment at least you aint Shy !!!

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    Guardian,

    Followed your procedure and it worked flawlessly, it took about 25 minutes to get the image and several more to burn. Popped the CD in and it worked great.




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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/20/2004 11:23:03 AM   
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    I just beat doom3! Goodluck to the rest of you and don't forget to breath!


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/24/2004 12:24:18 PM   
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    First of all, thanks for the guide! (This is my first Post here)

    I have used your instructions with an original version of D3, a pioneer DVD 106-S and a TEAC W552E Recorder.

    Reading and recording disc 2 and 3 were excellent. As for disc 1 it failed. The Read Error was from 900 to 17000 track. Is that right or should I use the recorder to read the doom disc?

    (Those doom discs are really damned! :P)

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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/24/2004 12:35:49 PM   
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    The read errors your recieving I believe is the copy protection being copied off the Doom3 disc. This should be ok, just let it finish copying. If it gives you an error message and exits the copy window then theres a problem. But read errors should be expected.


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/24/2004 12:42:05 PM   
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    Welcome to the Forums!

    Oh, BTW

    I actually had to use my older Mitsumi CD-ROM drive to copy the disc's because my DVD+RW didn't read the error protection and didn't show me the read errors(Copy Protection) I had expected to see, hence the reason I used an older drive. It seems newer CD/DVD drives are automatically programmed to ignore read errors such as this BUT I am not 100% positive on this, its just a strong theory. If your recieving an error message I'd like to see the actual error, if you could post reply it here that'd help, or, maybe post a picture if thats possible.


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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/24/2004 2:07:24 PM   
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    Well actually, I used the cdwriter to do the image making from alcohol, just as you wrote, and instead of burning it, I used the image on the virtual drive and it worked :)

    I just read it in 2x Speed.

    Btw does your nvidia works ok? What framerate do you have on D3? I am currently into buying a new card and I have to choose between an Nvidia 5800 (Albatron) and a 9600 Se or 9600 Pro (ati). I prefer nvidia due to stability of the drivers but everyone says I want to buy 9600...

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    RE: Doom III CD backup guide - 8/25/2004 7:15:59 PM   
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    After about 2 days of tweaking my video card's settings and creating a custom autoexec.cfg file for Doom3 to get better performance out of it. I managed to get around 30FPS on timedemo demo1 with all detail turned off (I dont recommend doing that). The framerate occasionally hit 60fps in the dark areas or while only 1 or 2 small monsters were attacking me, but once the conclave of monsters appeared and special effects started happening in every corner my framerate would be subject to a major performance hit.

    If your going to upgrade your video card I would suggest the ATI 9600XT 128mb. This would be enough to play D3 on resonable detail levels at resonable fps but not enough to totally break your child's college fund. Or else if you want to make Doom3 run so fast you'll have to run and catch it then pickup a Radeon 800XT 256mb which to my knowledge is one of the TOP videocards being made at the current moment.


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