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DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 9/30/2006 8:07:28 AM   
michaelm

 

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Hello there from Italy.
Being a newby, I'm counting on your knowledge for a issue I have. I just bought a Pioneer DVR 111D with the latest firmware (1.29). Recently I also bought some DVDs  double layer named Platinum which say they can go up to 8x. But using Nero 6.6.0.13 I only can select 2.4x. Can you tell me please if this issue is caused by
a) DVD drive
b) Nero
c) the media (which I don't think are somewhat of a high quality, though).

My bests

Michael
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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 9/30/2006 9:09:35 AM   
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I don't do a whole lot of DL burning, but when I do, there is only one media type for me and that is Verbatim.  I'd have to guess that it could be a combination of all three... But the thing that stands out most is that the drive does not recognize the media (perhaps with a future firmware update).

That said, find some Verbatim DL media or just deal with the 2.4x speed for now.

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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 10/1/2006 12:05:16 PM   
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Hi friend! Your media is probably based at Ritek, can you please give us more information by using CDSpeed? Probably Pioneer has reduced at 2.4X wriitng speed to give you good burn

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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 10/2/2006 3:58:01 AM   
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Thanks Alexmacris, for your help and SithTracy too. I will get the CDspeed info and posted them later.
My bests

Michael

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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 10/2/2006 6:26:21 PM   
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Alexmacris,
here's the cdspeed log:

Nero CD-DVD Speed: Disc Info
Informazioni di base
Tipo di disco:      : DVD+R DL
Book Type           : DVD+R DL
Produttore:         : CMC
MID                 : CMC MAG D04 (000)
Velocità scrittura: : 2.4 X
Capacit√† vuota      : 7.96 GB
                    : 8152 MB
                    : 8547993600 bytes
Informazioni avanzate
Layer               : 2
Interruz.layer      : 3.98 GB
Strategie scrittura : 9 X - 3 X
Stato disco         : Vuoto
Dati grezzi
Physical Format Information (00h)
0000 - E1 0F 32 10 00 03 00 00 00 FC FF FF 00 22 D7 FF - ..2.........."..
0010 - 00 00 03 43 4D 43 20 4D 41 47 00 44 30 34 00 40 - ...CMC.MAG.D04.@
0020 - 25 25 37 0E 02 20 64 02 20 64 18 16 09 08 12 13 - %%7...d..d......
0030 - 01 01 01 20 00 18 16 09 08 12 13 01 01 01 20 00 - ................
0040 - 04 00 33 7B 5C 02 17 69 64 21 1D 0C 08 20 02 01 - ..3{\..id!......
0050 - 01 00 02 37 69 84 21 1D 0C 08 20 02 01 01 00 44 - ...7i.!........D
0060 - 04 00 02 28 69 7A 21 1D 0C 08 20 02 01 01 00 00 - ...(iz!.........
0070 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - ................

Sorry it is in italian but it says the max speed is 2.4x. It is definitely a rip off because they are sold for 8x.....

Michael

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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 10/2/2006 8:39:18 PM   
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You can use Media Code Speed Edit (MCSE) to customize the v1.29 firmware.
http://ala42.cdfreaks.com/MCSE/

What you can try is to change the "CMC MAG 01" to "CMC MAG 04" and Set it.  Then double-click on your new "CMC MAG 04" line and swap it with a different one that you will hopefully never purchase... like the "RITEK S04".  Unfortunately the firmware does not support loss-less strategy swapping so you might have to repeat the process in the future.

FWIW, in the future try to stick with name brand media like Verbatim, TDK, Fujifilm, etc.


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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 10/3/2006 1:46:07 AM   
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you're right tqhoang. I should have stick to better brands. Ok, got the lesson!

Thanks for the link abut firmware tweaking. Will give it a try...

Bests

Michael

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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 12/2/2006 1:22:01 PM   
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General Information
Drive: _NEC    DVD_RW ND-3520AW
Firmware: 2.U5
Disc: DVD+R DL (CMC MAG D04)
Selected speed: 5 X
PI errors
Maximum: 1942
Average: 232.81
Total: 4867220
PI failures
Maximum: 17
Average: 0.70
Total: 23779
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 25:22
Number of samples: 189913
Average scanning interval: 1.00 ECC
Glitches removed: 1

I had burnt it with same burner, at 4x burning speed.

Conclusion: Don't buy DVD+R DL from Opus Supplies Deutschland. They sell craps only (DL I mean)! For the rest, they have (mostly) Ritek DL, and that's even worse than this CMC MAG D04.






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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 12/3/2006 5:48:10 AM   
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Quite bad stuff indeed:

General Information
Drive: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7173A
Firmware: 1-O2
Disc: DVD+R DL (CMC MAG D04)
Selected speed: 8 X
PI errors
Maximum: 1414
Average: 266.32
Total: 7656745
PI failures
Maximum: 86
Average: 2.97
Total: 54286
PO failures: n/a
Jitter: n/a
Scanning Statistics
Elapsed time: 20:14
Number of samples: 32600
Average scanning interval: 8.00 ECC
Glitches removed: 12







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RE: DVD dl 8x that goes only 2.4x - 12/3/2006 8:25:24 PM   
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I've had good luck burning CD-Rs at 52X using Verbatim media, but I'm not so sure about the boatload of Imation media. Seems that some of them have a clicking sound near the end (80-minute CD-Rs) at about the rotational speed of the disk. The clicking starts out barely noticeable and progresses to the point at which it is very annoying.

Using a strong light and using reflections to look for scratches or flaws, I can't see any on any of the disks that have the clicking. Is this an indication of poor CD-Rs??

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