Is this different than DataLife Plus?? I saw the Datalife title and assumed that the discs were the same. I thought Verbatim only puts out ValueLife Plus, Datalife Plus and Music Life Plus. These discs do not have the same color on the bottom of the disc nor can i get any info of what type of media it really is. Anyone know what these really are?? Did I make a mistake in buying them?

@AndyD2k: Yes you made a mistake by purchasing them! :-(

The Verbatim Datalife discs are mostly low quality discs that only sell because of Verbatim's reputable brand name. Many different manufacturers produce Datalife discs including CMC, Moser Baer India, and if your lucky, Taiyo Yuden. Overall, I wouldn't trust these discs. If you want real quality, go look for some Taiyo Yuden-made discs.

TerminalVeloCD

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Well, I usually go for the DataLife Plus which are usually made by Mistibushi Chemical. It was a stupid assumption on my part that they were the same :(

Thanks for the info

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Datalife - TY (the pastel ones) are excellent disc's and maybe even better as the AZO stuff.
Datalife - CMC (atip mde by Mitsubishi/CMC) are the really bad disc's.

Datalife - Moser Baer India Limited - Big differences in quality. These disc's can be quite good but also can be junk. Never as good as the disc's Emtec has made by Moser Baer.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

@rjw: The Verbatim Datalife discs made by CMC are not made using the Mitsubishi production line. They use the same dye as Imation and KHypermedia.

TerminalVeloCD

(in reply to AndyD2k)

MCC& CMC have some factories which are owned together. Now these factories produce also the CMC atip code disc's for Verbatim.

About production lines. Did you know that the Taiwan production lines for AZO disc's are also used for CMC pthalocyanine disc's. Some lines are actually setup for makeing both cd-r's while others are only for one sort of disc's in these factories.

The only real difference between CMC pthalocyanine and MCC AZO disc's is The quality controle procedure, the stamper and the chemicals that are used.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

You're probably right there - CMC phthalocyanine dye sells in greater quantities than MCC metal/super azo! Still, I try to get Verbatim DLP discs that are Made in Singapore. I've had better luck with them in general.

TerminalVeloCD

(in reply to AndyD2k)

The disc's of the Taiwan plant are actually quite good. My experience is that they score a little bit better as the Singapore ones however there is also a bigger variance in the error levels with these disc's.
Singapore and Colombia ones have a smaller variance but the average error rate is a little higher.
The Mexico(Also CMC/MCC factory ) and India (don't know) are the more problematic ones. Specially in combination with Lite On's it seems.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

...older Lite-ons ;)

(pre 40x?)

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Verbatim Valulife and Datalife are basically the same - usually low quality CRAP made by CMC, Moser Baer, or some other low quality manufactuer, but the Pastel Datalife's are made by Taiyo Yuden.

DatalifePlus discs use Mitsubishi's Azo dye and are made in many factories worldwide.

@Lev: I've never heard of or used Colombian-made MCC discs!![?] Oh, the Indian plant is most likely at Moser Baer India, once again with the same terms as the CMC agreement.

TerminalVeloCD

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Dunno what u all yelling "CMC Bad.. poor ... ugly ..."
i'm using thier cd's almost 4 years even 1 wasn't bad or any errors during the burning process.

Just buy Verbatim DataLife x48 by CMC & expecting 0 errors !!!

Good day.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Then you should be lucky.
By the way do you test your media[?] Or do you believe that if you burn it with verify option in NERO (if you even use it) is correct.

However CMC can make decent disc's (and I'm not pointing to the fact that they make some excellent disc's for MCC with MCC's raw materials and stampers and quality controle. I am really talking about CMC disc's which do carry the atip code of CMC.) however still their quite hard to find and most disc's which are linked back to CMC are still junk.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Yes, i tested the last Verbatim x48 by CMC & find "0" errors.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

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Originally posted by BurnOmania

Yes, i tested the last Verbatim x48 by CMC & find "0" errors.

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What drive did you test it on? and what software did you use?

(in reply to AndyD2k)

Teac CD drive & Nero CD Speed tool -> CD Quality Test.

(in reply to AndyD2k)

@BurnOmania,

Nero CD Quality Test only tests for C2 errors. Your discs may not have any C2's, but the number of C1's may be through the roof! If you have a LiteOn or Plextor drive, there are programs out there that will test for C1 and C2 errors, and give you a fairly accurate indication of actual disc quality.

TerminalVeloCD

(in reply to AndyD2k)