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emperor -> Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/22/2004 1:46:21 PM)

I used Verbatim 8X and was getting 8X writing speed with LG 12X firmware A102, so far ok i thought, but Nicw told me that A102 firmware can do 12X with Verbatim 8X, so i checked the media we had here, from Verbatim and MKM:

* Verbatim 8X
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 .......MCC.....0
00000020 30 33 00 38 23 54 37 15 02 52 6C 02 B4 63 15 15 03.8#T7..Rl..c..
00000030 0B 0A 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

inner circle serial number: VX3Z25KA149115

* MKM 8X
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 26 05 3F .............&.?
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 .......MCC.....0
00000020 30 33 00 38 23 54 37 12 02 42 6E 02 A8 6B 15 15 03.8#T7..Bn..k..
00000030 0B 0B 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

inner circle serial number: VX4514IA46751

The MKM 8X can burned at 12X, while the Verbatim 8X (we used) only at 8X...[8|]

Looking at the media ID codes, under DVDInfoPro, both media look exactly the same, using the extended ID code we can see a difference RI for Verbatim, Bn for MKM...Maybe the RI Verbatim media will phased out soon by Bn MKM?

Can you please post the complete media ID code(s) from your Verbatim 8X media?

A user send us this details:
Verbatim 8X Printable Top
00000000 08 02 00 00 A1 0F 02 00 00 03 00 00 00 25 E2 2F .............%./
00000010 00 00 00 00 00 00 03 4D 43 43 00 00 00 00 00 30 .......MCC.....0
00000020 30 33 00 38 23 54 37 15 02 52 6C 02 B4 63 15 15 03.8#T7..Rl..c..
00000030 0B 0A 08 08 01 19 1B 0C 0C 0C 0D 01 00 00 00 00 ................

So there is high possibility that all Verbatim 8X with printable top using the old media type...




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emperor -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/22/2004 4:38:54 PM)

Well...no idea [&:]




DoesItMatter -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 1:05:21 AM)

Check the BACK of the Jewel case (if you got in a jewel case)

There are 2 Types of Verbatim 8X +R out...

One made in Singapore (MCC 003 8X)

One made in Taiwan (MKM 8X - MCC003 that can burn at 12X)

This is from checks I made on media I have at the moment...

Anyone else verify this?




raygay -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 4:01:32 AM)

Hi.
i m fr singapore. i have mcc003. LG 12x burns at 8x only
http://geocities.com/raygay27/media_verbatim8x_1.txt




Jackass -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 7:19:52 AM)

Well I have both types of the said media


Mitsubishi DVD+R (made by MKM, made in Singapore) - only burns at 8X

Verbatim Datalife Plus DVD+R 1-8X also made in Singapore - burns at 12X

The only reliable way is to check the media ID code, as pointed out my emperor.




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Clint -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 8:22:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jackass

Well I have both types of the said media


Mitsubishi DVD+R (made by MKM, made in Singapore) - only burns at 8X

This is the media is suspect is the crappiest as I have 3 of these DVD+R's burnt at 8X with the PX-712A (v1.03) that don't read faster than 1X (they play fine when you watch them) but on a backup (2X or faster) they don't read with any software and I can't copy them since all my drives don't have a slower than 2X DVD read speed option... [:'(] Or.. is anybody else's PX-712's not recording these?




emperor -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 11:14:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DoesItMatter
Check the BACK of the Jewel case (if you got in a jewel case)
There are 2 Types of Verbatim 8X +R out...
One made in Singapore (MCC 003 8X)
One made in Taiwan (MKM 8X - MCC003 that can burn at 12X)
This is from checks I made on media I have at the moment...
Anyone else verify this?


I don't have Jewel cases for both media around, as soon we get some retail media will check this and report where are made, etc...




emperor -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 11:17:11 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Clint
This is the media is suspect is the crappiest as I have 3 of these DVD+R's burnt at 8X with the PX-712A (v1.03) that don't read faster than 1X (they play fine when you watch them) but on a backup (2X or faster) they don't read with any software and I can't copy them since all my drives don't have a slower than 2X DVD read speed option... [:'(] Or.. is anybody else's PX-712's not recording these?


Strange behaviour i must say...




cvs -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 2:20:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: emperor

Can you please post the complete media ID code(s) from your Verbatim 8X media?



I can't give you right now the full media codes, as my unit is in the RMA process, but what I can do is to present few interesting things about them, until I get my unit back. I'll post then the full media ID codes.

All my 8x Verbatims are Singapore made, and identified as:

Verbatim DataLifePlus, AdvancedAZO, Printable, Jewel Cased, order code 43274, MCC003 Rev00

I've wrote 4 of these discs until now, sent one to Plextor.be, and have one more left.

Out of those four, my Plextor PX-712A reported 8x writing descriptors available on three of them. For the fourth disc however, my PX712A reported a 12x descriptor available! Very strange isn't it? All these discs carry the same order code and were purchased at the same time from the same retailer.

Now let's look at the serial numbers. There are two SN's on these discs, the first one is near to the hole and is unique, while the second one is close to the lead in area and is not unique:

First the "12x" disc:

VX4302LA013794, ZC8365-DVR-X47B

The "8x" discs:

VX4231LA076671, ZC7156-DVR-X47A
VX4201LA027571, ZC7156-DVR-X47A
VX4131LA076665, ZC7156-DVR-X47A

Notice something? Different ZC codes for the disc which wrote at 12x compared with those which wrote at 8x only. I would be interested to know what is that A or B at the end of the ZC code meaning. Coincidence? I don't think so! Now as I've just said, all this media carries the same order code!

I'll post the full media ID's as soon as I'll get my drive back.




cvs -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 3:44:55 PM)

Furthermore to my e-mail, here are some links debating the same problem:

http://forums.speedlabs.org/index.php/topic,616.0

http://forums.speedlabs.org/index.php/topic,584.0

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=101268 (see bottom of post 47 in particular)

http://club.cdfreaks.com/showthread.php?t=93219

CVS




emperor -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 7:43:10 PM)

cvs thanks for the new, could it be that the A/B are just the media revision?




Jackass -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 9:48:07 PM)

I have both of these media in Jewel cases, and both say Made In Singapore




Jackass -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/23/2004 10:21:30 PM)

This is a scan obf the back on the Jewel Case of the newest MCC003 discs from Verbatim.

[image]local://upfiles/17008/3552FA85E7EC43B4A31C176E737BA27D.jpg[/image]




emperor -> RE: Verbatim sells two types of 8X DVD+R media (7/24/2004 10:46:58 AM)

Jackass can you confirm is the 12X media has the X47B code pattern?




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